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Whats the best ecommerce cart for SEO?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by stylesb, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. stylesb

    stylesb Regular Member

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    What cart can you make static (preferably .html) pages on?

    I have Fantastico and it doesn't seem possible with zencart... it does like indec.php?main_page="page_name901q37"

    which is super lame... for optimum SEO, I want some .html pages...
    such as

    "/awesome-keywords-that-will-make-money.html"

    Like I said I have Fantastico and the only options I have at the moment are ZenCart, OSCommerce, and CubeCart.... from my readings oscommerce creates some crazy dynamic URLs. CubeCart I have no clue. I was stopped once I learned that u have to pay for CubeCart, I def dont want to pay (well just yet anyway)

    In my research ive stumbled across [email protected] [email protected] S0luti0ns. its like a $50 set up fee and $40 per month. not too bad, i expect to make money, but id like it as cheap as possible if not free until I make I get off the ground.

    Id like to put as much of my budget as possible towards link building and my product line

    any advice is appreciated...
     
  2. TapTapper

    TapTapper Junior Member

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    Zen will do what you want. Zen Cart is really the best, but you have to install a LOT of modules to get what you (will eventually :D) want. At the top of zencart dot com there's a link to free software addons. Search for SEO or URLs.

    There are 2 stable SEO URL mods, Ultimate and Simple. Simple SEO is not at all Simple, it is a horror to install and configure and use and will suck your soul out through your mouth and break every single other mod you ever ever try to install.

    The other one is fine. So use Ultimate SEO. I may have them switched around, I'll check my mods tomorrow (the one I use is so freaking stable I never have to touch it!) and give an update if I have them backwards. But I'm 99% sure.

    Anyway, if you're selling stuff you'll also at least want some other mods: Orders Edit, Super Orders, Easy Populate, CAPTCHA (lol), Google Froogle, Sitemap XML, Better Together, Dangling Carrot (never worked for me), etc etc.

    Lightbox is also a big problem but you may be tempted. Lightbox is where when you click on a product image it blows up and the background goes black, and you have to click a close X or something to get the website back. Lightbox is a great, powerful tool, but it doesn't play well a LOT of other very useful mods.

    I run some ZC sites and I'm working on SEO, but really ZC has done most of the heavy lifting for you already. The only thing I'd recommend (once your ZC has the right mods) is to do the 2-5% keyword/keyphrase formula in your product descriptions. Once you give the engines what they're looking for zc will feed them.

    There are some other URL bits going on in ZC, let me know if the mods don't do what you need and I'll point you in the right direction.
     
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  3. ukescuba

    ukescuba Senior Member

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    joomla + virtuemart + sh404sef works well, is easy to use and does what you want plus lots of other things too

    joomla you can usually install from fantastico

    virtuemart you can get from
    Code:
    virtuemart.net
    sh404sef you can get from
    Code:
    joomlacode.org/gf/project/sh404sef/frs
    for more cool plugins for virtuemart look here:
    Code:
    http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/extension-specific/virtuemart-extensions

    you can get some great looking templates from joomla/virtuemart here
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    templateplazza.com
    just look at their ecommerce/shop templates - they also have plug and go quick install packages too

    hth
     
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    TapTapper Junior Member

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    Hey uke, I've been interested in trying Joomla / virtuemart for some time but I wasn't sure if it would work for my stuff. I have a catalog with 35,000+ items in almost 400 cats and subcats and can't use a cart that requires me to make changes manually (last week I had 1,800 discontinued and 2,600 additions). I need data upload with automatic image assignments, category creation on the fly, etc. That's the best thing about Zen for me so far: the upload mod really does what I need.

    I have Zen, Magento and PrestaShop sites right now. Magento uploads products but categories are manual, PrestaShop is just immature and buggy.

    I've been burned by so many carts in the past I don't like to install a cart until I know that it can do bulk uploads / updates. Do you know if your combo will do it? I'm ready to kill my PrestaShop install and try another one on that site.
     
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    ukescuba Senior Member

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    ill check for you later today, as im not 100% sure

    im sure if you cant right out the box there is an addon that will let you do that

    what type of datafeed are you using?

    thanks

    jay
     
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    rliddle Newbie

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    Interspire, though not cheap. $299.00 is the one I found to be best. I researched quite extensively, and have used Magento, Zen, and a few others, and found Interspire to be head and shoulders above. (I am definitely NOT with them) just trying to save you a little research.
     
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    thanks guys...

    due to my budget constraints ill try zencart first I guess...

    for my day job I work as an SEO for a network of ecommerce sites and we run [email protected] st0res so I'm very familiar with it and it works wonders for SEO... only thing stopping me is the set up cost ($50 set up fee, $40/month thereafter) ...

    I'll be PMing you TapTapper if I run into anything...
     
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    I build whatever feed the site needs. Generally txt or csv. I think that's why I skipped Virtue before, I couldn't find a bulk upload piece.

    Thanks bub! Much appreciated

    Oh, and the $299 cart rliddle? I've paid for my laaast shopping cart. MIVA was a horrible experience, I bought cart software and licenses for years and never again. From now on I'm purely open source / contribution (if it works)
     
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    gorancro Newbie

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    If you have the money look into CS-Cart. I'm working on a website with their software and it's working great so far. I've also tried Magento, Zen Cart, and OSCommerce. Zen Cart was the best of all 3 but still didn't do what I wanted it to do.
     
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    hey uke...

    joomla + virtuemart + sh404sef

    will this make .html urls?

    really my main concern...
     
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    Why are you so worried about html URLs?
    ASP urls will get indexed just as well, and providing you dont have too many parameters in the URL it can be followed just fine....
     
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    Magento you have full control over rewrites open source and it rocks for SEO just make sure you sort out the robots.txt
     
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    Man, I used a couple of free cart and zen cart is the best by far, now the question is, does it worth to use something else to get .html pages?
     
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    I also using this combination joomla + virtuemart + sh404sef .It's very easy to install and you can find really cool templates.

    demo.templateplazza.net/?template=ecommerce_plazza

    demo.rockettheme.com/ check Mynxx template

    joomlart.com/templates_demo.php check Ja Zeolite

    demo.gavick.com check Eshop template

    Magento is also great solution for you...
     
  15. johnniew

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    for my opinion magento is the best, it is the most featured ecommerce software out there, SEO friendly and the most powerfull, also you can do the modification of php to html by a simple .htaccess file with apache rewrite engine module.

    Regards,

    Johnnie.
     
  16. TapTapper

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    I have a Magento cart, but it never went live because the final customization steps were making my hair fall out. I worked on it like a dog until I came across this blog comment. I realized I wasn't alone in my frustration and decided to cut my losses. I mean, I can get a Zen site up and running, fully customized in 4 or 5 hours. Why was I spending 30 hours a week knocking myself out?

    and

    Also the complete lack of decent documentation was a real problem. That "Designer's Guide" is written like a weight-loss blog, wordy and wooden. Way too touchy-feely, then jumps into deep code with no proper flow. It's as if one guy wrote the puff and then someone else cut in code blocks.

    Magento has since come out with a $$manual but I stopped development on that site a couple months ago.

    Otherwise I loved Magento! It's really cool looking and has a nice admin. The BEST BEST part IMHO is the live chat. 24/7 there are folks hanging out in IRC, and there's a link to it in the header of the support area. Questions that hang out unanswered in the forum for days or weeks can be solved by a visit with the guys.

    But I am still looking for something with Magento's cool look (love that tag cloud!!), so I'm going to start a Joomla / Virtuemart cart this weekend.
     
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    @TapTapper

    do you have access to any zen cart templates?
     
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    try interspire.
     
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    I would recomend magento its one of the best I've used and its pretty much has everything your need out of the box. However customizations can be a pain and their forums aren't of much help if you have to ask a question.
     
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    zencarttemplates dot info is the best place to start. The first drop-down box on the right is the template switcher so you can see them in action. there's a download link (an arrow somewher near the top) to DL whatever template you're looking at.

    Also, in the ZC main site there's a templates section in Free Software Addons. I like the Atheme ones the best

    Whatever you do DON'T ever buy (or steal LOL) Template Monster templates. They ignore / overwrite / f-up a lot of ZC's core code. It's so bad that a lot of forum users won't help troubleshoot an error if you tell them it's a TM template. TM basically sells really nice looking, broken templates, then as the customers come howling back they make you wait days or weeks for a fix, as though they didn't have to do the same damn thing 100 times before

    There are a lot of other places, if you don't find one you like at the site above let me know ;)