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What to do when a BHW member pissed you hard?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by alienacademy, Nov 9, 2016.

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  1. alienacademy

    alienacademy Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    *This is a warning thread for those who is dealing with @Patpatpat as a friend
    *This is not a shitlist, I don't want him banned for his unprofessional behavior.
    *This may be a whining thread.

    So a few months ago this guy came to me with a bunch of questions about Instagram. And I helped him to start his journey as a friend. He took 2 pages of my PM but I didn't mind (i am a nice guy).

    Now he had 2 good looking pages for sales, he wanted me to find a buyer for him for a small commission for 1 of his page.
    After putting my hours with some old buyers, I sent one previous buyer to him (I am a stupid guy too).
    And my client bought both of his pages for $600 and I got nice little $15 as a gift in my papal.
    This patpat guy thinks I just picked a skype name of my client and sent to him. Well, he doesn't know the back conversation of me and my client (explaining the engagement, are those worth or not, what should be the right price etc). Before I can talk about all these, he said I should be thankful and accept his gift which i didn't and refunded it.

    So just keep these two names in mind if you don't want to lose your mind:
    skype: live:patrickligasantos (lol "live : patrickligasantos" without spaces)
    BHW: Patpatpat

    Now I am feeling great again.
    I think a whining thread was the answer to my question.
     
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  2. alienacademy

    alienacademy Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    lesson learned: never redirect your customers to competitors.
     
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    Always ask for a 50% commission. What 'small commission' did ya'll even agree on?
     
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    I don't get it. If you wanted a larger commision, you should have negotiated for one?
     
  5. islandman1010

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    So you asked for a small commission and got it. So who is to blame for that?
     
  6. alienacademy

    alienacademy Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Deal was like this:
    If i sell his 1 page for $140 i will get $30 (around 20% i think)
     
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    The thread title does not go well with your details :O BTW, next time if you find any such guy, call 911!!
     
  8. alienacademy

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    I was about to ask the advices in the OP to calm down but by the end i felt like i dont have to.
     
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    OP you can sue that guy for your payment.
     
  10. islandman1010

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    So if you had a deal call the person out in a Shitlist so he can come and defend himself and people can make up their own minds to deal or not with that person. Making a whining thread about someone is lame, it's no more than whispering behind their back. Man up.
     
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    $15 commission :)
     
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    Really?

    I thought you were taking the piss at the start, then I read on...

    So petty
     
  13. alienacademy

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    Nah man, I am okay now.

    That guy didn't scam me for money or digital goods, it was just a friendly deal which didn't end as i expected. Even if i create a shitlist, nobody gonna win because he still paid some part as a commission.
    And about whispering behind their back, its not posted in jr.vip section.

    I was taking the piss while writing this thread.
     
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    Contracts. Get them.
     
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    lol he is greedy
     
  16. alienacademy

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    I actually helped him sell $600 product without knowing it.
    My work was to bring the buyer for 1 account but he actually sold 2. I made a mistake by sending the buyer directly to him.
     
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    If I'd get a dollar for every time I hear "I helped him and now he turned my back...", I'd be richer than bill gates...

    I mean I know that this is freaking marketing, and in marketing you need to have a cold heart, but even with those who raised you?

    Lesson learned: Keep the shit to you, the lesser people know it, the lesser competition...and if somebody was meant to succed, he would succed though his own force...

    P.S: When I do share my problems/frustrations, I tend to be even more frustrated, how about you?

    Edit: that's what happens when you spoonfed a noob, you create a monster...
     
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  18. alienacademy

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    The first time he contacted me, I did a help but the second time it was failed business deal which shows how unprofessional it was.
    I try to keep my problems to myself but i do share it if its going to feel better.

    And i don't think you can be richer than bill for that, he worth 82 billions and there are only 7 billion people on earth and even if you able to hear it from everyone you will still be 94% poorer than him and i don't go to party.
     
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    Spend less time crunching unnecessary numbers like that and more time making a contract template and you can alleviate issues like what you mentioned in the OP from happening.
     
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    when u make a deal set the terms right of the bat.
    no looking back.
     
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