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What The Hell Is This Guy Doing To Rank His Vids So Well (stats are weak)

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by SpiderBlast, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. SpiderBlast

    SpiderBlast BANNED BANNED

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    This is pissing me off. Go to youtube and type in "best music recording sofware". I've been trying to rank a video for months now, and this guy flew right by me with 2,912 views & 52 likes.

    Meanwhile there are videos with 640,000 views , 170,000 views, 80,000 reviews etc that he breezed right by.
    I won't say which video is mine, but HOW THE HELL is this happening? I don't see any one factor that sticks out about his video and he doesn't even have >>>3,000 views FFS!

    His video ISN'T EVEN OPTIMIZED IN THE TITLE FOR THAT KEYWORD.

    Now, I can be stupid and speculate that youtube has become some random roll of the dice.
    But if you check his other videos, its the same thing. He ranks really well... with barely any views or likes and his subs are nothing to bark about.

    This guy is doing SOMETHING AND I NEED TO KNOW. Someone please tell me before I lose my mind.

    Here is his channel -

    https://www.youtube.com/user/tjopen1?feature=watch

    -SB
     
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  2. azy141

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    blame the russians... if you know what i mean
     
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  3. NewTube

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    His video is optimised in the title, description and tags!

    Title: 5 Programs for Creating and Recording Music (Open Source/Free)


    <meta name="description" content="You can find download links at best-free-music-and-audio-software/ Here are some free programs for working with digital audio and music: Au...">

    <meta name="keywords" content="recording, record, audio, music, free, tjfree, best, top, editing, download">Keyword: best music recording sofware

    He has keywords in title, description and tags and words that are synonymous with the keyword.

    All his uploads are to do with Music, Video, Recording, Software etc

    More shockingly there is a video which is roughly 12th and has only 184 Views! LOL Keyword is in the title though!
     
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  4. SpiderBlast

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    I don't know what blame the russians means.

    Nor do I still understand what he's doing. My whole channel is about music. My title is better optimized, I have a ton more views and likes, just a bit less subs. My video is also older than his. But his video has still flown right by me these past few days. Before that, I don't even remember seeing it. I understand there are other things to ranking a video, but there is something much more sneaky or complicated going on that I'm just not getting.

    -SB
     
  5. EveCarp

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    DB Turbo, is that you? From his channel/videos I can see that he has actually optimized his video, and his channel.
     
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  6. ha55er

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    His videos are just simple outfilled the perfect keywords for the topic. There is no magic behind this. And also he have several videos which yt loves. Yt keep also an eye of the number of uploads of a account.
     
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  7. 420lounge

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    why are you posting other peoples links? I see you didn't want to post yours...don't post other peoples either then.
    dont hate the player hate the game
     
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  8. dekadent30

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    sape, or he uses xrumer for backlinks from different platforms, views doesn't count as much as backlinks, i'm doing the same for years and rank top 10 for many keywords in youtube and google
     
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  9. abuhanifa

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    He is not building backlinks , social bookmarks are doing all the magic. Here is a screenshot from ahrefs to support my point:

    http://prntscr.com/17p3er
     
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  10. RushingWind

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    You can't rank with just likes and views. It must be that he has optimized his videos with good do-follow links, social signals etc
     
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  11. SpiderBlast

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    LOL. Thanks mom.

    BTW, I'll post whatever links I want. That's part of the game. So if I have a problem with the game then so do you.

    So now... backlinks for ranking in YT?

    Am I missing something here because I've never heard about this in my life. Backlinks are suppose to be for google not YT.

    Very interesting, thank you for your help!

    How many times has it been debated on BHW that backlinks don't count for rankings on YT? I'm pretty sure the verdict was that backlinks only count for google.

    This is why social bookmarks are confusing... aren't they just backlinks?

    I ask questions on here so I don't have to burn tons of money testing, yet anytime I ask a remotely difficult question I get a multitude of different answers.

    No offense to ANY of you people, seriously.


    What I've gained from this thread so far -

    1) Doesn't matter how many views or likes you have, how many videos you have on your account is more important.

    2) There is some elusive perfect keyword structure to ranking a YT video. Even though I'll say for the 100th time, I don't see it. He's ranking for terms that aren't in his title. Again, the keyword "best music recording software" and does not have the words "best" or "recording" in his title. He is also targeting free software when "best" rarely implies free. It seems youtube is dropping the ball on this one. If people want free software they will TYPE IN "free xxxx". So I have no idea how that makes his video more relevant than mine.

    3) Many people say social bookmarks don't do crap, but when nobody can find a good answer to a hard question, social bookmarks always becomes the default answer. But if I go make a new thread asking "do social bookmarks help with YT rankings?" you'll see 100 marketers saying they don't do anything.

    4) For now on, if I have a complicated question like this, I will just burn all my money running tests.
     
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  12. dripdrop

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    his vid isnt listed on the top anymore
     
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  13. 420lounge

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    your a prick
     
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    I'm going to chime in here to attempt to clear some things up.

    First, for video ranking you need keywords in the title, description, and tags. It also helps if your channel has something to do with the keyword.

    Second, yes you can rank in YT and Google with absolutely no backlinks. Obviously, this is only for low to moderate competition keywords (up to maybe 2M competition). You just need views, likes, favorites. The views now need to be high retention (since YT has caught on to view blasting) and drip fed - getting 20K views that last 2 seconds each for your brand new video is definitely going to give you away.

    Third, for more difficult keywords you will need backlinks and social signals. Basically, just consider the video your money site and build links like your normally would.
     
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  15. spasovski

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    what an idiot. no wonder you can't rank shit
     
  16. imperial444

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    SAPE does the job in this situation, no doubt about it.
     
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    His channel page is PR 4
     
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  18. ReALeST

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    definately backlinks man....got this guy who just keeps spamming the shit out of my site with hes yt vid and surprisingly hes ranked first on google and yt for a super competitive kw with hundreds of thousands of kw!I also think its best to add in some likes and social stuff too...good luck!:)
     
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  19. johanrioux

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  20. Ste Fishkin

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    What do you mean ranking well? He had 1k views on a 7 month old video...
     
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