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What I've learned from BHW in three years.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jon_xx_x, Jan 1, 2012.

  1. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I think I originally came here three years ago to download stuff from the Download section.
    My first impression of BH was, this stuff can get you in trouble. ANd me having a 7 year old money site at the time, didn't want to risk it. But as my site disappeared from the front page, I needed to try some things, and quickly seen how good it worked.
    Anyways, here are my thoughts for each year.
    2009 - Most people here really don't make much money, they're barely making anything. (didn't spend a lot of time here, just browsed a bit)
    2010 - There's some people here that make really good money, and some that struggle to make anything.
    2011 - This was the year I put the most time in, probably 90% of my posts. And pay attention to this, as it's something I just discovered over the last month. I originally categorized the people here into two categories. Those that make money, and those that don't (ones that make few hundred $$ fall into here, no offense).

    But after really reading thousands of posts this year, and being someone that is very experienced in SEO, really having to analyze, and sometimes dig deep for new techniques, I've discovered a new category.

    That category is the ones that make a shitload of money. There's probably only a handful here that post, and probably a few more handfuls here that just read and keep themselves updated. These don't full out give their SEO strategy, but they offer advice for those looking, and that advice can help you take your SEO to the next level. They don't even have to say how successful they are, because if you read their posts carefully, you can tell they're on a different level than the rest of the people.

    This post is another post that really got me thinking as well, it's by Shoe Money, and he is in that elite as well, and when you read his post you'll see why:

    http://www.shoemoney.com/2011/11/21/what-i-do-now-in-affiliate-marketing/

    These guys find something that works, and they go with it. They scale it up, and they exploit the shit out of it. Say for example you find something a script that works well, you keep doing it, and keep making money. The difference? These guys go buy 10 computers, outsource 20 workers for cheap, and beat the shit out the method, making 50x what the average person makes. And they're sitting there hour after hour, seven days a week doing it.

    I don't really know the point of this thread, but I thought I would share my thoughts. I guess in short
    a) whether you're making no money, or a lot of money, really pay attention to posts when you're reading, and you can really decipher the same old crap, from the stuff that's actually working.
    b) if you find something that's working, go with it, find a way to scale it up. If you can make $100, find way to replicate it, outsource, whatever, even if it costs you $50, you're still making $50. Repeat.

    2012 - Remember, you have to want it, and you have to work for it. There's always going to be someone that wants/needs money as bad as you, and is going to work as hard, if not harder than you to get it. Any day you take off, they are pulling away.
     
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  2. fun4uoc

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    lol @ Schoemaker
     
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    very interesting! i am in the cat of making NO moey at all lol, but i enjoy it all the same :)
     
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    maybe you can press thanks button more often in 2012 after using this forum so much...
     
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  5. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Posts like this annoy the hell out of me. Why do you feel the need to get "thanks"? Does it make you feel validated? Feel important? A status?
    When I contribute and post something useful, I know I've helped others, I don't give a shit who clicks a button to let me know.

    If getting thanks is your number one priority, it's time to check your priorities.
     
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    Thanks for the insight on your experience, there definitely are a lot of people here on BHW that are quite substantial earners with low post counts as I have been in contact with a few.

    I probably fall into the mid earners category, I don't earn a ton but I try to reinvest everything can back into my projects so in the future I will start to see a nice income without much effort.