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What is your preferred metrics for your PBN domains?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MySeoEmail, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. MySeoEmail

    MySeoEmail Regular Member

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    What is your preferred metrics for your PBN domains? I read so many different things on this?
     
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    DA / PA 15 + and TF 15 +
     
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    Is PA important? What if you have a domain with DA of 30 and PA of 5?
     
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    I would like to know this as well, I got a domain with DA 21 but a PA of 1 & I feel that links are much weaker when they're on a page with low authority, but I'm not sure
     
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    Metrics are just aan indication, you should be checking the backlink profiles i have seen many times were domains with a low metric still had a good backlink profile, so don't get hung up on the metrics make sure the profile is your #1 priority
     
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    As said above, many metrics can be some what buffered & at times do not provide any additional value to a website. Manually have a look at the link profile with Majestic/Ahrefs & determine the quality. Still many great domains available if you know where to look.
     
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    I check the backlink profile, wayback machine and the anchors.
     
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    TF 15+ and then check manually the backlinks and try to avoid web directories,spam like that. It worked like charm so far, I've ranked from #20 > #8 on a very hard niche in the UK from 15 websites only :) All manual work on the PBN, even the articles.
     
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    Go check the pages from where the backlinks are coming and what authority they hold. That is a much better evaluation than the metrics provided by third party tools.
     
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    Clean Backlink profile, DA/PA above 15 & TF/CF above 12 and RF.
     
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    The higher and stronger, the better.
     
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    SkyrocketSEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Probably no one said this before but one of the most important things for me is SEMRush traffic.
     
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    High authority backlinks, clean overall backlink profile and clean site history (archive.org and screenshots.com).

    That's it, all 3rd party metrics are only good to "weed" out the bad domains but even for that it's not very accurate at all. I find domains which are "bad" in terms of PA/DA and TF/CF but they turn out to be real hidden gems.
     
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    I think he was referring to expired domains. That one does look like it's packing heat though!

    Couldn't agree more. The metrics are surely useful, but by no means are they the end of domain research. Checking archive.org/anchor texts used/links - looking for authority links and overall good looking link profile.
     
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    tf < 1 , cf <1 , D mustache < 1 P mustache <1
     
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    my method as well.
     
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    I don't look at a domain if it does not have at least 15+ TF, 20 PA, 15 DA, 20+ referring domains.

    Jut because the site meets these metrics does not mean its good, it means its worth looking at.
     
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    Actually I was talking about expired domains for PBNs. Just looking at SEMRush metrics of a certain domain you can see a lot of things.

    For example, if domain is ranking steadily for certain KWs, this means

    1. Domain is not penalized
    2. Domain is indexed
    3. Google trust this domain (meaning Google will trust links from this domain)
    4. Domain is good enough for your PBN without even looking at history and backlink profile
    5. If you are lucky enough that domain is in your niche, purchasing that domain is a no brainer

    etc etc
     
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    Yeah, for expiring domains for sure. I was confused by the 'current ranking' part as expired domains dont have any content for a while and drop from the serps.

    That's why I always put the old content on a PBN domain until it reindexes. Usually that content will be picked up and will rank for some ultra long term/company name type keywords, which is still something to show established trust.

    However, as you move up to move competitive niches (finance, insurance, health, gambling, pharma, weight loss, etc), you need to up the ante on domains for sure.

    Some of the people I know who rely on outreach and link prospecting use page rankings and domain rankings as a sole metric for picking their targets. When spending 100-200 on an editorial piece you want to make sure it's read & gives you bump up.

    EDIT: Just to add some context to my initial response. "That one does look like it's packing heat though!" - was referring to your sig. Under low brightness you can't see the splitting line.
     
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