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what is typically good traffic per month for an exact match?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by iFilm7, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. iFilm7

    iFilm7 Registered Member

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    what is typically good traffic per month for an exact match?
    50000?
    (1750 per day?)

    i cant seem to find ones that have that much and that have competition i can beat...
    and will micro niches make me money (profit) as in will it let me pay for my hosting and my domain registration and make me even more money with a micro niche alone?

    i have mnf and m.s. for keyword research...
     
  2. hardcore1

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    If you cannot find niches with competition that you can beat then start by looking at some of the smaller - much smaller niches with like 5k exact a month. The lower the traffic the lower the competition, well most of the time anyway.
     
  3. iFilm7

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    thanks,
    but will the site be profitable?
    note the expenses goign to be used on the site, the startup fee and the annual fee..
    also besides the actual main keyword [exact], what should other good keywords be for the SEO.
     
  4. Talsin

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    Personally I dont think you should invest in a site if you cant envision how to monetize it yourself once you hit around 1k uniques a day.
     
  5. businessminder

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    For an exact match of 50,000 searches a month, a good estimate would be around 5,000 ~ 10,000 a month for top 3 positions, which will give you about 200-300 a day for top 3 rankings
     
  6. dirtbag

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    if you can't find 50,000 exact match phrases that are easy to take out with minor seo, you're either not looking a whole lot, or really aren't a very good seo.

    maybe you just need to break away from the path you've been following and look into some new areas.
     
  7. iFilm7

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    is this hard to place in the top10 ranking?
    im using market samurai for keyword research and everything, whats the green light for me to go ahead and make the domain and start autoblogging? im following brian johnson'sauto content cash course...
    seems legit... [im pretty sure it is]

    but yeah i use market samurai,... what is the green light? what do i look for in competition so i can go ahead and create the domain for that particular niche?
    thanks
     
  8. iFilm7

    iFilm7 Registered Member

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    but yeah i use market samurai,... what is the green light? what do i look for in competition so i can go ahead and create the domain and start seo for that particular niche?
    thanks

    EDITED a bit [how come i dont see 'edit' for my post above? -.- oh well.]
     
  9. BrentH

    BrentH Newbie

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    Look it as a measure of ROI.

    The more traffic you get (assuming it's not junk traffic) the more potential money you can make from your effort now.

    I don't think there's any hard-and-fast rules - except avoid keywords that have too little traffic to make money on.

    Good point.

    There are a lot of sites making money with less traffic.

    Did you read the blog post we put up on "Outrunning Lions" recently?

    Essentially, take what you've got - and compare it to what's already ranking.

    If you have a 4 year old PR 5 site with 10,000 backlinks to the domain - you're going to be able to compete against a much higher quality of site than if you're starting out without any site at all.

    If you're starting from scratch, you'll need to invest time and effort to build your site up - how long will it take you / can you get more Page Backlinks and Domain Backlinks than your competitors? (Keep in mind that it's not just the quantity of backlinks that count - you also need an equal or better quality of backlinks than your competitors - and quality backlinks take more time.)

    Brent
     
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    The problem with that is... How to KNOW what you're competing against... Like the PagRank of a site... How do I get there? WEll okay...

    How do you know how strong the sites on the top 10 listing in google are?
    ive watched your 3 golden rules videos but still unsure...

    (i read your blog post and yes its VERY informative, but i cant put that information to use if i dont kknow how to identify how strong my competition is...)
     
  11. AmarLuis

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    I haven't been looking for higher but I haven't seen too many really easy niches with more than 400 searches a day. That's just me though, I'm looking at product niches.
     
  12. dirtbag

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    I've been tracking the ratio of estimated hits to delivered hits on a couple of my higher trafficked sites with good se traffic for a little while now. The majority of my top 3 placements clickthru in the 20-30% area. By the time you slip below #5 you're getting into the 10% and down area, and starting second page you're already slipping to around 1-2%...

    I would say it's safe to say that a top 3 spot on a term with an estimated 50k exact searches a month by google, should turn you back anywhere from 10-15k uniques over the month. Or 300-500 hits a day.
     
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  13. iFilm7

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    dirtbag, really quick offtopic question, what did you do to have your website in your siggy suspended?
     
  14. dirtbag

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    let a hostgator account drop a while ago. guess the redirect was hosted there and never did anything with the domain. will move it over now. thanks for the notice, should just be a matter of waiting for dns updating now.
     
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    The problem with that is... How to KNOW what you're competing against... Like the PagRank of a site... How do I get there? WEll okay...

    How do you know how strong the sites on the top 10 listing in google are?
    ive watched your 3 golden rules videos but still unsure...

    (i read your blog post and yes its VERY informative, but i cant put that information to use if i dont kknow how to identify how strong my competition is...)
     
  16. hardcore1

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    You might want to look into market samurai, you can type in a search phrase and it gives you detailed information about the competitors for that phrase; PR backlinks, age etc. It's very noob friendly (no offense).
     
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    that's what im using... the question im asking is how do i know if i can beat the competition...
    the green, yellow, and red boxes are rather vague..
     
  18. hardcore1

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    Well you know if you can beat the competition if you can get better links than they have and so on, I really think you should look at some very small niches just to get the hang of SEO and beating the competition - just get some tiny niches to start with and go for bigger ones as your experience grows.
     
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    what if theyre listed in DMOZ, yahoo, etc...?
    how do i know, FOR SURE, set in stone, that i can beat them?
    what are the usual... say... maximum in site info [page backlinks, listed in DMOZ/yahoo/etc, domain age, etc...] for me to go ahead with confidence that my website will beat theirs on EXACT match, which, if the exact match phrase's PBR is 25% or greater, in the future will probably even have a lot of broad search terms that i will be ranking in also?
    thanks.
     
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    A good rule to follow, Is work out your end goal and then work backwards from there.

    For example, Say I was to promote a Clickbank product. If it converts 1/50 hops, and I want to aim for a sale a day. Then obviously I would aim for something with maybe 100 searches per day (Assuming 50% goes to number 1, which is about right).

    I ALWAYS work backwards when doing this, even with my adsense sites. I work out what I think my CTR will be, My average CPC, and then work out how many visitors I need from there. You should always have a goal in mind.