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What is the 'Secret' behind famous 'normal kids/teens' on Instagram?

Discussion in 'Social Networking Sites' started by Chriztin, Jun 19, 2014.

  1. Chriztin

    Chriztin Newbie

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    Hello, I have been lurking around the BHW community for sometime now. I almost feel this is like my second home, lots of professional marketers and programmers alike myself in this forum. I feel this might be probably be one place where I might find answers (or at least a relatively accurate answer) regarding this question where the great Google himself could not-seem to answer.

    And I am definitely NOT talking about the "real artists" like selena gomez, taylor swift, twillight or justin bieber. I am talking about the 13-16year old boys and girls that has seeming an average school-life and average social status parents (yes, not Paris Hilton-type parents). Kids who actually perform on YT good music like benjaminlasnier... Alright, I'll let it slide. Even tho he has a questionable radio of 1.15 MILLION instagram followers as compared to 85K subscribers on YT.

    But take it down a notch. A kid that has an avg/not-so-attractive face, skinny lil/ectomorph bodies, doesn't seem to have any other talent/anything else to do besides taking selfies.
    Examples: mrbrent98... theres are tons more, I just can't remember all of them right now... I'll list more if I find them.

    Even some guys you find by searching "cute guys on instagram tumblr" are more attractive with their abs and stuff. But most rake up to around 100k-200k. Not exactly 1M+

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    Some "common answers" I found after "ages" of googling/yahoo answerings...
    1. All you need is just a good "face"...
    No = probably answered by fangirls who think "thats all you need" to get 1M+ followers. Definitely not the case. Tons of other more attractive men on instagram. Yet how does the ugly one stands out most?

    2. Super popular at real-life, school, does alot of activities and word-of-mouth...
    Not likely = first of all, a school would probably have around 500-2000 kids. Having all the kids subbing you is already a feat(and you don't even do music or have some passion. Other then selfies ofcourse) And even 10 schools would be 20K followers at MOST. And they definitely NOT-managed by professional labels and sold like justin bieber bad boyness. IF they attended concerts, tv shows like a real-deal. Then yes. I wouldn't ask. Oddly they only have photos of selfies and not themselves on the Ellen-Show or Opera-Show or atleast school band.

    3. Buy a s*-lord of fake followers/comments...
    Maybe = yup, definitely maybe. Probably the closest to the truth of an answer to solve this puzzle. Still I REALLY feel theres something else too. Still doesn't explain the "real" comments/users tho. And why the comments look so real. Oh and 1 more thing.. I am really trying not speaking out of racism, but I would just like to address one statistic fact as objectively as I can. Why does it happens most of the "hotties" are White or Mexican from US here? Not much or NONE Asians/Blacks/other races (I still see more black hottie instagram accounts than Asians)? I'm sure marketers can answer this one.

    4. S*-lord of fake accounts to post fake comments...
    Maybe = definitely maybe. Must be pretty tiring to post 100-1000 real-looking comments tho per picture. Unless he has his own team behind him to make 20 comments each per person.

    5. Be active on instagram, Interesting content, Good lighting, Good picture editing, Good use of hashtags and Be social like/comments other people's photos blablabla.. all basic blablas...
    No. Definitely No = Tons of amature/professional instagram users actually have all these "good lighting, concept". I believe its definitely something else. Some of these people don't even use tags. Be social? This is worst ever reason probably. No famous people actually "respond" to their fan's comments. Besides most of these photos are decent, shoot, post.

    6. Crowd attracts crowd.
    Yes = But why is the ugly crowd bigger than the legit good crowd? Hmmm... X-factor.

    7. An X-factor -- Well... what is it?

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    More 'marketing mysteries'
    Even legit YT indie artists doesn't have anywhere close to 100k followers on Instagram...
    Just search Madilyn Baliey(37k ig followers) or JanninaW(85k) on YT and compare to their Instagram followers. Very small number.

    Anyone who can share your thoughts or give an at least good effort at answering this question deserves a thumbs up from me.
    This could be the first thread in the internet to answer this seemingly unsolvable puzzle and help lots of real-life marketing!
    Definitely will applaud any professional marketers geniuses who can show off their marketing knowledge to solve this mystery.
    Be proud to participate!

    The point of this thread is simple.
    1) How did they do it? Whats their secret?
    2) How to replicate such success? Step by steps.
     
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  2. Tanckom

    Tanckom Power Member

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    They seem to be one of the first users, they had chance that there were a lot of niches, chosed the right username, or are very active, or they just use bots like most of BHW users here, bots are the automated machines who likes,follows, and unfollows automatically other people, more active users, more followers,likes and comments back, also it could come from a shoutout, they could be famous on other platforms and link the username of their IG to it, like there are a lot of Viners who have also an IG account, and they grew within 1 month from maybe 2k to 250k followers, it depends how good the account is, you nee to have something extraordinary!

    How to replicate this:
    1) Build an attractive account, don't post boring photos like everyone else, make something that IG has never see!
    2) Get a IG bot :
    - Instagram mega bot( good but expensive)
    -Insaget( dont know if it works/ price okay) http://instaget.com
    - Cetagram( iMacro based bot/ cheap) http://getinstafollow.com
    3) Use Addmefast bots to get a lot of points and use them for IG ( Cetagram has also free AMF bots), because you need a capital, people are more likely to follow a 2k user than a 200 user
    4) Link your account to famous places, but don't SPAM! that will more harm than do good
    5) Maybe buy at some time 5k-10k followers to get a higher start capital, trust me, that will help

    That's all what i can tell you!
     
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  3. Chriztin

    Chriztin Newbie

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    Thank you for your thoughts, I feel some of your answers are good, however maybe not all of them hits the spot.

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    As for number 1. I do not quite agree with this one, as I'd mentioned. Making some new IS good. I don't deny that. But the question lies in the "selfies" teens. Who looks like every kid on the block. Thats the question of this thread.

    2) I tried bots like this before.. following a bunch of people and unfollowing them. Seems are just.. kinda too slow. getting 5-10 or less follower a day is not really progressive enough. Multiply that number by 300 days. At most it would be about 3000 followers. And thats within a span of a whole YEAR.

    3) This.. I will really consider this one. Can pay for -real- people. But definitely quite costly.

    4) Mind explaining more of this?

    5) Yup, tried this one. Definitely worked out alright. As I said in the thread. Buying fake followers are definitely the most -seizable- method.
     
  4. happy.mondays

    happy.mondays Junior Member

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    There is no 10 word recipe for success you should know that. Not in music industry not in film industry not in any kind of art. There are guidelines and observations but no surefire step by step guide.

    And who understand teenagers anyway? Other teenagers. Perhaps it is what they wear or how they wear it. Perhaps it is a silly expression or a pose. Remember that fucking GIF cat that was so popular couple of years back? Who could predict something like that?
     
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    Tanckom Power Member

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    When you use bots, you need to use it logical, not only use it, when you have a fashion account, you're not liking photos with a hashtag of cats, guns, etc.
    The best one to allways follow/comment/likes are the IG's selfmade hashtags:
    like4like
    likeforlike
    comment4comment
    follow4follow
    tagsforlikes
    instalikes
    photooftheday
    ootd (outfit of the day)
    instagood
    f4f
    c4c
    l4l

    These are the hashtags you always have to use, and than you can use your own hashtags, i have a costumer with more than 40k followers, and they got within a week with right hashtags +2k follower
     
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  6. Chriztin

    Chriztin Newbie

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    At happy.mondays
    True that. Who can understand teenagers? Who knows how the hell an app like "snapchat" can be number 1 among teenagers?
    However, that's the whole point of this thread. If there would be a genius marketer who knows the reasons. Fundamentals of breaking into the teenaged market we can share it with the whole BHW community.


    Ah yes, alright about this method. I admit this works to some extent I definitely had experience with this. Even still you might only get 10-20 at most likes a photo with these popular tags from non-followers. Much worse that the fact after Facebook bought Instagram, the case where good pictures appear in the popular pages are replaced with pictures posted by your friends.

    I am not saying this method doesn't work. Maybe it's just me personally don't much success as to how to use this method. Even I still feel the secret doesn't JUST lie in just tags or good content. I feel its somewhere along the lines of the "X-factor" how to just go viral within the teenage market. Just haven't been able to figure this one out.

    But definitely thanks for the post. Can you also clarify a bit more about your method? Just spam all the good tags and post 1img a day or something?
     
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    Tanckom Power Member

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    Sorry that you feel still the same way, why don't you contact somebody of these bigs account and ask them?
    In my opinion it's still that they started early enough to reach the goal, if you have a famous website/blog/teenie thing, link your ig to it, ...
    I can't give you a full report how to get famous on IG, because that's exactly what I'm selling^^ i already gave you a lot secres for free dude;)
     
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    I'll ask my employee - he's 18 now and more or less given up on IG now!!

    He did have 20k genuiine followers so not on scale you are talking of but I'm sure he could have built it up a lot further if he had wanted to.

    All he posted were selfies - he followed other people and they followed him back - he interacted with his posse of followers and built up a loyal following of teenage girls :)
     
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    Than he must be a badass looking guy ;)
     
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    Chriztin Newbie

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    Haha, contacting those big accounts would probably be ignored. I would probably find more luck asking a community of similar professional programmers and marketers. Yes, you know I appreciate it Tanckom. By no means I am forcing an answer out of anyone. It's just in my original post that I've already research those -fundemental- ways. Good tags, be unique and those things. Mr google already revealed those ones.

    But yes about them having enough time to grow and posting a reference to your ig from a popular teen site might be something to look into.


    Ah yes, definitely interested in hearing the answer to this one. I mean if the guy was decent looking its alright. But a "nothing attractive" about him guy raking up 300K+ followers is something else. lol
     
  11. happy.mondays

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    Since it is rather theoretical thread... success has an element of surprise as ingredient. So it can not be planned. If it planned, it is 'achievement' or 'result'. I highly doubt that any of those teenagers started like 'okkkkkay, today I will start an IG profile and grow to the millions! Let me find a study on what to wear...'
    So you can mimic their behaviour but can't replicate their success. Better to be yourself and start posting about whatever you are comfortable with instead of trying to be somebody else. Being unique is an ingredient of success, too. Even if it sounds too cheesy, it is true.

    Or, you can make a list with all your observations and references about the successful accounts and try to post accordingly. Then scale up. Quantity over quality.
     
  12. Numbuh362

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    look through the followers, not all of them are real
     
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    I have 4 IG accounts, and my personal one doesn't have 100% real one's and I'm not boosting or buying any followers, but I still get fake followers...
     
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    Using bots to automate the follow for follow and exchanges it is not too hard to get going. Then once you have 2 - 4k followers you can do the shoutout thing which gains you followers and pic likes fast.
     
  15. Chriztin

    Chriztin Newbie

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    Well I guess its more like trying to replicate the success of Flappy Birds. TONS of other dev houses making kicka55 games at play store yet the one that shines the most a brain-dead tapping game made in 2 days. Even tho Yes. Better to be yourself. But I definitely believe there's a secret formula that can anyone can learn from when observing these phenomenons. Long time ago we used to think football was stupid. Whats the point of kicking the ball around having no gain/advancement to humanity? Oh turns out now it's huge! Many uses for it, campaigning against racism etc. Basically, all I am trying to say now we say there's no "plan" to replicate such success. I'd prefer to believe we just not-found the way to break into the teenage market yet. (or at least know some of the key ingredients for it) Hence we say so.

    At Numbuh362
    I would believe with this one. Having 1.48M fake followers and 200 000 real loyal crazy fans would fulfill the criteria for this.
    (Edit: Or even 90 000 fake comments and 20 000 real fans/comments actually! Hm, we are getting somewhere now)

    At Tanckom
    Yes tanckom. I believe fake followers is one key ingedient here. Anyone here heard about Lady Gaga losing 120M view-ish on youtube? Yup, that's the stage where our economy's at right now.

    Bots hm/ Could you explain more about the shoutout thing? What exactly is it?
     
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    I own a few big accounts now a days and the main way of increase followers is through SFS..
     
  17. Tanckom

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    Shoutout is when you post a picture of other IG's and mark their name on it, so they can follow him, but before you shoutout him, you have to set some actions like they have to like 10 pictures and follow you, and comments etc. and than maybe they get a chance for a shoutout, if you're over 30k Follower you can also sell shoutouts at fiverr...
     
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  18. skyward

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    Nice thread OP. Good reaad :)
     
  19. happy.mondays

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    Ok, I know one method for you. Mass of people behave like a herd, they say and act like others do and they follow leaders. You can use that to your advantage: buy as many fake followers as you can. Buy hundreds of thousand or millions if you can afford it. I am sure real people would start to follow the biggest account if not for anything else, then for curiosity. This must work for any topic.
     
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    Follow for follow for sure.