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What is the Definition of a (YouTube) "View" ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by B. Friendly, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. B. Friendly

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    The phrase "YouTube Views" gets thrown around so much, people want them, people are selling them, accounts get banned because of fake views etc... I watch YouTube videos and sometimes they are deceptive or just stupid and I want to know if, despite the fact that I've clicked back, stopped the video or whatever, did the YouTube channel owner still get a "view" from me?

    When/how does a view actually happen? Is it a percentage of the video watched 75? Is it if the video runs perfectly from start to finish, with no interruptions? If I made a YouTube view 'bot, could I (for example) have the video start, run for 15 seconds, click to the middle, run that for 15 seconds and then run the last 15 seconds of the video, and still get credit for a view?

    Any testing to prove/substantiate any of the opinions?
     
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    Yes, if you clicked the video and viewed it for even one second and went back, that person still gets a view. A view happens when a person visits the video, regardless of the amount of time spent watching the video or what you do afterwards, the view still counts. I wouldn't waste my time creating a bot, delivering views is far more complex than people think. The algorithms youtube has in place prevent botting views as best as possible, so unless you are extremely knowledgeable with exploits etc, I wouldn't waste my time.
     
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  3. Baasje

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    Youtube says:

    A view is counted whenever someone watches a video on YouTube. We do not get more specific than this to avoid attempts at artificially inflating view counts.

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    I'm wondering as well what exactly a view is. Perhaps someone with some better info?
     
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    Yeah this is right, although view retention can play a role when a video is getting A LOT of people not even staying for half the video. Or if the person that viewed your video is just watching video after video and exiting them (obvious botting activity). The views can lock off at certain plateaus until you get that number in legit views. This is why when people use free sites like vagex can use like 10,000 views but would be lucky to get 1/4th of those actually delivered.
     
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    Well I believe that botting still works and I'm very interested to procure such bot.
     
  6. blackmoss

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    I believe most suppliers of youtube views are using bots anyway so there is definitely such thing as a youtube viewer bot.
    You may have to get someone knowledgeable to code it though!
     
  7. B. Friendly

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    Has anyone done any testing?

    If not, I think I'm going to. Should be simple enough. Load an uninteresting video with a non-descript name (to make sure that you don't get any REAL views), then start "viewing" it. Lol, maybe even use that video to build a 'bot. Might be fun just to build a macro that 1) Loads YouTube URL 2) Mouse clicks "play" etc...

    I wonder if the incoming IP is relevant. Also the "exit" (does the browser close, go to another video, go somewhere else, etc...).

    Changing browsers. Changing IP addresses. Using different "mouse movement" scripts. Changing what the browser does at the end of the video. Does simply playing the 1st 10 seconds really count as a "view" (I have my doubts about this one.) If not, can you skip forward quickly (30 seconds actual play time for a (for example) 3:00 video.

    And then the math. How many views can you generate in 24 hours. How much can you sell views for? What's a working per-view price for views? 10 cents? 3 cents?