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What Is The Best Long-Term Stable Strategy?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Krazy Kitty, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. Krazy Kitty

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    I run adult sites. Have done for over 10 years. Truth is, tubes have hit me and others hard. The gold rush is assuredly over (for my kind of sites, at least). Over the last few years I've tried lots of methods and made some good money. Trouble is they're only short-lived methods. You make a killing, wait for it to get saturated, and you move on.

    So, the question : What is the best long-term strategy that would provide a safe and stable income?

    Some ideas :

    1: Autoblogs
    2: Bum Marketing
    3: Running conventional blog network
    4: PPC
    5: List building

    What do you think?

    I'm not getting any younger so I would hate my adult sites to be producing no income in the next few years. I'm thinking long-term, not over-night riches.

    Right now I'm considering, seriously, a combination of ppc, bum marketing, list building and running conventional niche blogs.
     
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  2. Nixxt

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    I like autoblogs.. but its clear you need quantity with them if you want to make good money. They are good for long term, you just need popular content, and a lot of them IMO.
     
  3. Krazy Kitty

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    I'm tempted by autoblogs too. I'm very familiar with WP. What concerns me is I spend the next 2 years making them and G decides to de-index them leaving me with no income from 2 years of hard work. I'm happy doing BH for temporary income streams but it concerns me when I think of long-term measures.
     
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    this would be my order of preference,i havent tried list building so cant say about that.
    but keep in mind in PPC,always copy others campaign(will save you hundreds of $$$.also try ppc only if you can loose a couple of hundred $$.
     
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    All I can see is Google making changes that may come hurt the business if one has a focus enitrely on a blackhat business which cannot be passed on to our children etc.

    I would start working on building an authority site and make it my primary business.You can set up your own corporate.Put it on full Auto-Pilot and enjoy your cash from anywhere in the world.

    I would use PPC as a medium to test offers I want to promote..I would make a real business online and take it offline..sure for the short-term you can pull all the blackhat-tricks up your sleevethat you want..but just remember that when Big G makes those changes its going to be a pain in many peoples ass.
    :spank:
     
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  6. Krazy Kitty

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    I began trying PPC this week. I've been a big buyer of traffic for years but never tried the more precise PPC. I'm actually making money right now. It varies from 30 to 50% ROI each day. When you say copy other campaigns, do you mean what they right in their boxes? Or is there another way of doing it? Somehow finding out their keywords?
     
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    This is really good advice. I have an authority adult site but this is not something I can leave to my kids and unfortunately it looks like I'm going to be outsourcing the running of it because I need to concentrate the bulk of my efforts elsewhere.

    So creating an authority site with a "future" is not a ground-breaking idea but it certainly mirrors my needs.

    So I would add this to my above list.
     
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    I love the autoblog method for long term income.
     
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    tools like keywordspy.
    it tells you others campaign keywords ads landing pages everything.
     
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    mlm, affilate 3 level, recuring billing product, promote product that you'll earn monthly, it need same work as the normal product
     
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  12. Krazy Kitty

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    I never knew that. Thank you!
     
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    Right now the internet is still the "wild west", coined by Rich Schrefen. Many self-employed individuals, small business owners, entreprenuers, and even Fortune 500 companies (who previously did business offline) are taking a piece of the net by promoting and launching products, marketing, and advertising services, etc.

    In other words, the quick hit, black hat/grey hat, and short lived techniques will be getting more and more saturated as the years go by. It's like the gold rush. Sooner or later, big companies will attempt to take over different industries in online marketing. Take affiliate marketing for example. What's stopping a multimillionaire or billion dollar holding company with investments in different assets from dominating niches? Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway could easily do this, if he chooses to. If autoblogging had high profit margins, he'd drive all the autobloggers out of business.

    Look at fitness ebook sales. The top performing affilates come from authority sites like bodybuilding.com with millions of visitors.

    Look at which sites capture the most advertising dollars; blogs like Huffingtonpost.com, techcrunch, lifehacker, etc.

    Authority sites are closing in on niches and that's the reality of all business, online and offline.

    Look at Walmart beating the small pop and mom shops.

    The only long term strategy with the least risk is to really become an authority in your primary niches. This is why you see niche marketing gurus who make six figure incomes get into the "make money online" niche. Internet marketing is scalable. You scale up your niche for big money through list building, newsletters, launching products, continuity membership sites, etc.

    Once you have a niche site that makes 1k per month or so, it's time to scale it up by creating more content, launching front end products/back end products and upsells, or membership site, JV'ing with other authority sites, seminars, teleseminars/webinars, home study courses, etc. This goes for all niches, not just the "make money online" niche. All the people who are making big money are doing just that. They may be using some blackhat stuff for SEO but the main strategy is what I just described.

    Find a niche or two, scale it up to authority status and then you'll be able to compete with the big boys. You'll have something that's long term and sustainable.
     
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    I've been tempted with this in the past. It seemed like a great price too.
     
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    it is going to increase to 197$ in some time,so if you wanna get in watch out for that.
     
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    Fantastic post, zhwriter! I can't add much to it other than to say this seems to be the most stable blue-print for success.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up!
     
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    Check the post from Doug how to get 15k with Adsense. There you will get a good insight what long term strategy is. Make 5-15-30 "niche" sites (of course not all at once) about topic with quality original content and then start promoting it through SEO, Link building. Be consistent in promotion and in 1-2 years you will have a stable sites bringing you nice income. For this to be effective you need to learn how to do SEO and how to do proper keyword and niche research so in next couple months work on learning those thing and then start making your authority sites. People think they have to make blogs to earn money but that is not true. Make 30-50-100 pages on the site, each for 1 keyword and then promote each of this pages on the site with a unique link building campaign. It's a lot of work but overall it's a long term strategy and the more sites you've made and promoted the more you will be earning but if you make classic blog you will have to post a lot of articles so more blogs more work. And autoblogs aren't long-term strategy. If you make good whitehat sites they will be future proof and autoblogs you never know when Google will make them useless you just know it will.

    update: Also you could make affiliate or dropship webstores and sell things, you can make membership sites, create e-books etc.
     
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    You are right about the BH techniques being short lived.

    I am posting here simply because I currently share the same concern about how to end up a with couple of stable long term income strategies

    In my opinion, you should think about setting up media properties that are unique to some extent & will be able to grow in terms of a visitor base gradually. The idea is to come up with something that you know will pick up not now, but in a few years.

    It ain't a BH Technique but it sure will be worth the amount of time you will spend making it, promoting it & improvising on it. (Think of all the money you could generate from direct ad sales - No G or Y! PPCs)

    Just think about how some people were able to create sites like Twitter, Squidoo, Bukisa, LinkedIn, some of our social media networks or this BHW forum for that matter.

    Even sites like Pingler & the many rapidhsare search engines we currently have are brilliant.

    I think this is what I am gonna try and start doing very soon.

    Just my two cents.
     
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    For my long-term white hat business I build WP blogs built around one keyword and blend in around a dozen LSI keywords. These are small blogs with original content that I write. Nothing major but they last because original content will always be something that Google loves.

    I've built some autoblogs to test and they do rank well but I'm wondering how long they will last. Not a good long-term strategy if you ask that question in my opinion so that's why I keep building these small 5 or 6 page blogs with original content. I like to build a site around a keyword that targets recurring commissions because that's what has made me the most money online so far.

    It takes a bunch of these little blogs to make anything but I can put 2 or 3 a week up so it's a long-term strategy that is building me a nice steady income. I've been doing this for over 2 years and it is working for me. Slow and steady but I can count on the the income.

    I do use some black hat that produces quick money but I always think of that as very short term and that money is vulnerable and can be lost at any time. Just thought I would throw that idea out to you, Krazy Kitty.