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What is better: Buy a service or buy a tool? For link building

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by Seritx, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. Seritx

    Seritx Registered Member

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    I have a question for who bought a service. Is it better than buying a tool? like zennoposter or scrapebox? I have some money to spend (45~$) What do you recommend me to start some black hat seo?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Sampler

    Sampler Senior Member

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    It depends. In all honesty starting with $45 capital isn't much. A good tool alone costs on average $50-$250. After that you'll need to host it on a VPS, another $35/month. After that you'll more than likely need private proxies which at a minimum is $20/month. So before you even start making links it's going to cost around $100 with some monthly recurring costs.

    Second of all the tool you buy won't magically make you money by building links. It's a learning curve and unfortunately 95% of people buy software and then complain that it doesn't work. So if you don't have time to learn how to use the software in the first place then don't buy it.

    Lastly in regards to a service on BHW you'll need to spend $50-$250/month for a decent service, that said you don't end up spending your own time on the project so that's what your essentially paying for.

    So essentially, have a real hard think and an action plan before you go buy any tools and/or service as regardless of how much you spend, it is an investment which needs thought.
     
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    clyde Elite Member

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    ^^ This.

    A tool is just a tool unless you know how to use it.
     
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    qrazy Senior Member

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    Tools are only good to own if you own a dozen of sites. If you are starter with couple of sites, then go for services. Please note that no single tool will do all the job. Professionals usually own multiple tools for different things, which may cost you in thousands.
     
  5. Gimme.The.Loot

    Gimme.The.Loot Regular Member

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    Neither, in your case.
    Like some have mentioned- you won't get too far with that budget when it comes to tools... especially as 99% of tools will have ongoing charges just to be able to use. Then there's the learning curve.

    Buying a service - $50 worth of a blast of any such service isn't going to get you long term measurable results.


    What do I recommend then? Learn the ropes, get practice taking action on things as you are learning them- keep track of what actions you're taking and start OUTSOURCING those ACTIONS!
     
  6. Annah

    Annah Regular Member

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    Exact.. Lee ->

    You should not use carbide to scratch your anus. (My advice > Urs)

    @op

    Listen to Sampler's advice. I recommend you to read around BHW, use the cracked tools you can get your hands on in the download section, play, test and keep your 45 bucks for something else.
     
  7. CandyLand

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    Sampler gave some good advice above. SEO is expensive in the beginning, as you buy software and learn to navigate the waters. Unfortunately, if your budget is only $45 you are probably wasting your time in this business, since one piece of software or one link service isn't going to rank a site--it's an ongoing commitment.

    Right now your time should be spent reverse engineering the backlinks of successful websites and seeing what kind of links you want. THEN, you can start worrying about how to create them.
     
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    1. SEO services are way overpriced
    2. You can buy a hammer, but if you don't know how to use it you can do more harm than good!
     
  9. ShabbySquire

    ShabbySquire Power Member

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    If I had $50 per month, I'd take a risk with a VPS with SEO tools pre-loaded. With proxies included, it would total about $70 per month.

    Then learn how to use the tools via video tuts on utube, etc.

    This would probably be cheaper than paying for some services.
     
  10. dentawor

    dentawor Power Member

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    The thing is how hard is your competition. if you are trying to rank for a really easy KW than I think manual back linking will work. Try to collect some money from low competition KW and after you get some capital using it for the bigger fish. 9 i do not know what is your plan, CPA, PPC or what?)
     
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    ryan-isra Junior Member

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    If you are looking forwarding to rank your websites, you should buy tool and learn how to use it first. It takes times, but if you think the time you're going to spend isn't worth it, you can simply go buy services on BHW and spend your time for what it's worth for.
     
  12. Seritx

    Seritx Registered Member

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    Thank you all! I'll continue reading posts!
     
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    Depends on how many URL's you have (NOT THE NUMBER OF SITES YOU HAVE)
    Tool will be a better investment if you have a large site or a large number of sites. Remember every URL withn your site that has decent content should be optimized both with onsite and offsite SEO

    But in your case 2 things stand out.

    Firstly - the question suggests you may be a little new to IM. Develop your skills and understand what a tool or a service does. Every site is different. There is no "one service or one tool fits all" solution for anybody understand what you are trying to achieve, the metrics you are going to measurte for success, put together a plan for developement that you understand in detail, buy the products or tools to action that plan.

    Two. $45 is really not enough. With a tiny site you might get real lucky with some fiverr services, but over the months I have not found any that are really that effective. The last thing you want to do is get "800 Google +1" or something that will get your site sandboxed before you even start.


    It's not a massive process, you can learn the basics in a few weeks, the actions tend to take 2-3 months, so, if you do it right, you'll have cash rolling in in a few months.

    Scritty
     
  14. busaboss

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    hi guys, is social monkee a good service? thanks I need your advice
     
  15. alexglo

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    I would recommend a BHS VPS they come with a load of tools and it's $50 a month. Have a play around and get used to them. If you learn quick you should be able to sell 10 services on fiverr and get enough for your next months subscription.
     
  16. NoTitleRequired

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    Why don't you try some of the free trials first to see what you like.

    GSA Search Engine Ranker is great! It has a 5 day trial and the software gets a lot of diverse backlinks.
    http://search-engine-ranker.gsa-online.de/
    Then if you like it, it's only a 1 time fee of $87.

    Also No Hands SEO has a free 7-day trial.
    http://nohandsseo.com/download_trial.php
    This too is good.

    I have both of these running 24 hours a day for my sites. And there's lots of more free programs out there. I think a wiki submitter, proxy scraper, Spin Chimp Basic (spinner), and i think there's a free pligg submitter too.

    With 50$ don't spend any money yet, like people said, figure out what you are doing first. Find what works, and what you like to use.

    dave
     
  17. joey11

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    depends on how much you value your time, if you already work a 9-5, have a family or just don't have too much spare time and don't have days to learn how to use a tool then it's better to buy a service, if this is your only source of income then it's worth buying and learning how to use the tools.
     
  18. NoTitleRequired

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    Gscraper looks like a slightly cheaper, slightly less effective version of Scrapebox, which is $57.
     
  19. Jorge Slayer

    Jorge Slayer Newbie

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    BHS VPS can be bad for SEO? I mean, penguin penalty or something like that... (IP google detection or banned, etc). Or its impossible for google to control all BHS VPS?
     
  20. KingMonkey

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    Why do you need a VPS to use most SEO tools?

    Where can I find this, not something I've seen advertised?