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What if you don´t want to be personally connected to a website you own/run?

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by Purple Con, May 25, 2014.

  1. Purple Con

    Purple Con Newbie

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    Very new here, so sorry upfront for "stupid" questions :)

    I want to start a website based on the viralnova.com (yeah, i know. old story). The reason why i´m doing this for the learning process and its the best if you do it based on the already existing product. My plan looks like this for right now:

    - Register a domain (anonymously or with a very good privacy protection)
    - Rent a server space in a different country from the domain regstar
    - Install wordpress
    - Put the content up
    - Get a bank account
    - Make an adsence account
    - After approval implement adsence

    On the paper it looks very easy and simple, but the question is what should if i don´t don´t want to be personally traced?
    - In my country we don´t have those 7eleven prepaid cash cards. So i will need to register a domain and rent the server space with my ID. I thought about register a Limited company in Hong Kong (in example) and register everything with the companies name. But here again, with a simple request it easy to find out who the company owner is.

    - The same problem / issue how do you get a bank account?

    Am i missing something or thinking to complicated?
    If you have any suggestion, please feel free to post.
     
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    What is the purpose for the anonymity?
     
  3. Purple Con

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    As i understood Viralnova and co are in the legal grey zone. I guess if "the sh** hit the fan" (law changes) there will be a lot of greedy people trying to sue him. So i guess the owner of such a website has his bank account somewhere offshore, so it can´t be frozen. Also to trace his name will be not that easy. No?
     
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    your name pretty sums it up!
     
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    What's the site all about and why is he getting sewed?
     
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    Well a VCC can solve the problem of identity being disclosed when paying. As for the registrar, I don't recommend providing fake information and that's where you are vulnerable. If someone really powerful inquires about your identity, it might be disclosed by the registrar even if you have privacy protection.

    As for a hosting provider asking for your ID proof, there are several hosts who do not ask for your identity. So, that's not a real concern. If you want more security, may be get a private proxy for loggin into your admin, but that's insanely high security that you are asking for. Even a terrorist web master won't ask for that lol.

    Edit: Adsense..hmm... that's tough to get without revealing your identity.
     
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    OP the biggest problem you have, is with the monetization with Adsense, you will have to use something else.
    I don't think a Viral nova type site would get approved, do they even use it on their site?

    Pay for your Domain and Hosting with Bitcoin, several companies accept it.
    https://ititch.com/ - Haven't used it, so it isn't a recommendation, just an example.
     
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    Regarding getting ID's you can easily get some faked docs from Marketplace here. That solves half the problems.
     
  9. Purple Con

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    Hi.
    Was just banned from the forum and got added back again. No idea whats up.
    The only reason i asked about the whole stuff is based on the article about a person who runs a Viralnova clone called heftig.co
    Unfortunately i can´t post links yet, since i´m new. But if you google "Rhain Zeiting heftig" there will be an article from April 29th 2014. In this article you have a following paragraph:

    Heftig.co lehrt uns, Grenzen zu überwinden. .co ist die Länderkennung von Kolumbien. Registriert wurde die Seite über einen anonymen Dienst aus Panama. Der Server steht in Kalifornien. Und die Firma Spring Surfer Ltd., die angeblich dahinter steckt, sitzt im Karibikstaat Belize unter einer Adresse, an der viele Offshore-Firmen verwaltet werden: Belize wirbt mit größter Vertraulichkeit und macht es Steuerbehörden sehr schwer. Es geht geheimnisvoll zu bei heftig.co.


    Thanks all for answering.
    I´m really curious why i was banned and added back again.
     
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    No, the website would be for German speaking crowd. But i think the hype is gone tho. A lot of different clones and the new Facebook algorithm makes it very difficult to get traffic. Read recently an article how the traffic dropped to 40%. I guess it was the right time to do it. Lets see.
     
  12. Purple Con

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    No one is getting sewed. As for my understanding re-posting content is not illegal as long as you name the source. But everything is changing so fast, so its the matter of time until it will be forbidden.
    And i´m sure some of the people are already going for high security. Why else a lot of those websites have the whois privacy protection?
     
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    Whois protection is to keep the everyday Joe Internet Surfer from looking up your home address and phone number. If you're a legit business then you're actually not concerned about Joe Internet Surfer doing a Whois on your domain. Even with domain protection (Domains By Proxy, etc) LEO, a judge, or a high profile government official can get your identity. Remember, you're never anonymous, no matter how many steps you take to think you're anonymous. Here's a piece of advice...never think you can remain anonymous.

    You ask why do people use privacy protection on their domain. Here's one reason: so Joe Internet Surfer doesn't track down some college girl with a blog. That's one good reason to use Domain By Proxy (or others).