Well, you know guys I'm kinda new here to BHW but not to PPI/internet marketing. It's a shame I was lurking around for ages, now I finally signed up. English is not my native language so sorry about my possible grammar mistakes. Well, as you probably know PPI is a good moneymaker and if it's done right it's like a license to print cold hard cash. Due to the recent issues we face like major players going out, Google Chrome, shaving and AV detections PPI is not as profitable as it used to be in the last few months. I think these days Chrome is our biggest problem, toolbars are not operating the way like before. Honestly I do not know much about it, but everyone and their grandma is on Chrome already (based on my stats) and with the recent updates Google did... oh boy. Malicious file warnings all over the place, and disabled toolbars hurting my business. Distributing adware is not the most honorable activites on this planet but hey, I kinda like it. And as long as it's legal and users hit big green accept buttons, I think it's alright. Man, current payout rates suck. This year the whole biz is declining imo. For how long will it last? I don't know but there's so much money involved, we certainly can't hit zero in revenue per install, but it feels like the good old days are long gone (and I am not talking about the silent shady wild west here but the legit stuff only). What I think is going to happen? Advertisers and PPI networks has to think outside the box to keep up with the browser-war and antivirus detections. Maybe the toolbar industry will evolve to something else. I think it's just a matter of time and some good lawyers and we'll have good 3rd party offers (with hopefully good payouts) that are not just toolbars. I mean, what's the rush about toolbars afterall? Yea-yea, injecting ads, etc. I got that. But if someone is willing to code a software that is not entirely based on a browser, that might make money. Maybe something like this already exists out there, I don't know. What I'm saying is with the ongoing situation toolbars are not gonna survive for long. Maybe 5-10 years. And after that? You heard about mobile? Got a smartphone? There ya go. Microsoft Windows will fade away, slowly but surely I am telling you. Computers will exist basically forever (personally I like to write on my physical keyboard but writing on a virtual screen thats annoying). What I'm trying to say is it's gonna be much harder to get our hands on 1000s of users when it comes to mobile. But that's gonna happen in the far future so... Hey, but we need to make cash today right? I'd say in the next 3 months PPI companies MUST come up with solutions on - how to avoid these neverending Chrome flags (malicious files and blocked downloads) - how to avoid AV detections (i think Chrome is much bigger problam than AVs) And advertisers must think of new monetization ways other that toolbars. When these criterias will met together, we'll keep making money with PPI. If not, that's gonna hurt. Well, there's a lot more I wanted to say before I started writing this thread but it's a bit late here and I was just wanted to get the ball rolling. Thanks for reading though. Keep your thoughts coming!