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What hosting you suggest for my small PBN About 20 Blogs

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by yourdady, Oct 12, 2014.

  1. yourdady

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    Hi,

    Can you guys suggest me hosting for my 20 blogs PBN, I am thinking to use reselling hosting (different IP C block ) but i am not sure it is safe or not, can anybody suggest me best hosting to use for private blog network, Or how can i manage 20 blogs PBN :rolleyes:

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  2. TYmed

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    Have a look at these threads:
    /blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/697565-pbn-q-ask-me-anything-about-how-i-build-manage-rank-pbns.html
    /blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/701008-complete-guide-building-pbn.html

    (I cann't post links so you have to set the domain of this forum yourself).
     
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  3. iamsolo

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    I suggest you different popular shared hostimgs like hostgator, ipage...etc. They have very low deindex rate than seo hostings and cheap $1 hostings.
     
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  4. yourdady

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    what about Reselling hosting guys ?
     
  5. TYmed

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    What do you mean exactly? Getting an account for reseller hosting (with different IPs/servers) or buying from resellers?

    You shouldn't think about the first option. This is a big footprint.

    The second one is generally no problem. But you should know from whom they are reselling in order not to buy from ten different resellers with the same base.

    Buying from resellers makes sense, if you can significantly safe money this way.
     
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  6. francis1017

    francis1017 Supreme Member

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    Stay away from SEO hosting..
    I'd rather go to some "not that cheap shared hosting" just to be safe.
     
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  7. LityUM

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    SEO hosting are dagnerous, they get penalized. You should use different hostings. However hostnine seems to work good for this purpose, but you need to have a reseller account.
     
  8. DannyZhang

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    Just a heads up. I've been hit using $1 shared hosting as well. Sign.

    Now I use more expensive local hosting and host more websites to keep the cost down.
     
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    Do a search on Google for: Atom Host

    These guys are a cloud hosting company and they have data centers in Los Angeles, Chicago and New Jersey (I believe) and they will split up your account equally between the 3 when you use one of their reseller accounts. Additionally, you can split between 4 data centers if you want to use the London one. It's CPanel hosting with WHM access in each datacenter.

    It's $9.99 per month but nice to have 3 different A,B, C and D blocks on one account. Additionally, they don't bill themselves as "SEO Hosts"

    Hope this helps you out, I have no affiliation to the host, just think their service is good.

    Peace,
    Z
     
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    What about nameservers? Will it be same for all sites?
     
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    Avoid cheap hosting. I would suggest you to use hosting from different reliable vendors from being caught by Google.
     
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    Just find 20 cheap hosts and use those, keep a nice spreadsheet of all details to make it easy to manage.
    that way you know that all aspects of domain and site management are without footprint - IPs different, nameservers different etc.
     
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    I sent you a PM please check it.
     
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    Hosting isn't the reason why people have lost their pbns. It's other fingerprints. The way most people design their pbns leaves a huge fingerprint. I personally could find pbns algorithmically, so Google certainly can.

    SEO hosting is likely a fingerprint, but not "cheap hosts" like hostgator. The amount of hostgator sites on the Internet is tremendous, now include all the other cheap hosts and you're accounting for an incredible amount of sites. If anyone thinks Google is manually checking backlinks on cheap hosts they're nuts.

    Heck, having an expensive host is more of a footprint.

    What stands out more, a ferrari 430 or a ford focus?

    I know the reason for the blog network culling, but this forum is far too big to share it on. All I'll say is, it's not hosting.
     
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    Having said that, I still see noobs hosting their PBN's on shared hosting, all the same IP (or split between a couple). Having all your sites linked together on shared hosting is a f#cking massive footprint. It is easy to make the connection when half the PBN is on the same server (yes, I have really seen people do this)
    People need to use common sense.
     
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  16. salmanseo982

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    You should try Hostwinds find easily on BHW and good also
     
  17. splishsplash

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    Also, 99% of you have no idea what classful address spacing is. Getting hosting on different class C's is useless.

    For example, I'll bet that most of you think these are 3 separate class C address spaces

    87.13.51.1/24 and 87.13.154.1/24 and 87.43.38.1/24

    You'd be wrong. These are all the class A 87.1.1.1/8

    Class A/B/C hasn't been used in years. Networks are split up into more complicated segments like 153.97.3.1/20 or 138.17.55.8/23.

    What most of you think you want is non-sequential IPs.

    The reality is that all you have to do is lookup the IP address registration information from the appropriate regional internet registry, APNIC, ARIN, RIPE NCC, LACNIC, and AFRINIC.

    Here's an example. This may shock those of you who have been using SEO hosting thinking that they're protected.

    Let's take linode as an example.

    linode.com : 96.126.108.55

    speedtest.london.linode.com : 176.58.107.39 (Hosted in London)

    speedtest.newark.linode.com : 50.116.57.237 (Hosted in Newark, NJ, USA)

    speedtest.tokyo.linode.com : 106.187.96.148 (Hosted in Tokyo, Japan)

    Now, you might think of you had all these IP's you're safe.

    First one, 96.126.108.55 yields : NetName: LINODE-US

    Second one in London, 176.58.107.39 yields : netname: LINODE-UK

    Third one in Newark, NJ, USA yields : NetName: LINODE-US

    Fourth one in Tokyo, Japan yields: netname: LINODE


    So those SEO hosting companies advertising "different class C's" and "super safe class A's" are not only taking advantage of people's lack of technical knowledge, but unless they're reselling hosting across 100's of different other hosting companies that own their own IPs, then they're leaving a fingerprint.

    But, the reality of all this is Google doesn't need to go down the route of using IPs and the like for fingerprints. They may have signed up to some of the bigger SEO hosting companies to get IP address ranges to look for, but beyond that, there are FAR easier ways to algorithmically find private blog networks.
     
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  18. splishsplash

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    Yes, definitely. I wouldn't have 2 blogs on the same hosting provider linking to the same money site.

    It's different having say, Blog X linking to M1 and Blog Y linking to M2 with blog X and blog Y on the same IP. If there's no links between them, ie, BlogY-->BlogX, or BlogY-->M1, BlogX-->M1 then it's fine.
     
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    If google already uses the reason you know to take down pbns then what's the harm to share it on a big forum like this?
     
  20. splishsplash

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    Because then it gives away how to actually create a pbn that works.

    That means that 1) More competition for me. 2) Google start going after what I'm doing

    Lots of loss, no benefit. Potential loss of 100's of thousands of pounds for a few thanks? I'll pass, but thanks! :)
     
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