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What happens if i dont pay my paypal negative balance ?

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  1. fcsbraduku

    fcsbraduku Newbie

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    Hello . Today i sold an item on steam and i received the money . I bought something from ebay immediatly but now i received a email how the buyer is trying to chargeback . I know that i dont have really any chances to win so my balance will remain negative .
    I have -175$ and im from eastern europe . My card is not linked to paypal but is attached . ( i dont verified it yet so they dont know if it is or if its not my card )
    I can live without paypal so what can happen if i dont pay my balance ?
     
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    SimpleSiteSolutions Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Did you sell something on steam or did you scam someone on steam?
     
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  3. fcsbraduku

    fcsbraduku Newbie

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    i sold . i can show trade history .
     
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    SimpleSiteSolutions Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Then show proof to paypal. Why do you think you can't win?
     
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  5. fcsbraduku

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    i dont understand how they would trust me ? how they know thats the item that he payed for and he is not my friend or something like that ?
    i sent images with trade and chat history to paypal but i think i dont have any chance..
     
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    Don't get to negative yet, I've had issues with virtual trade chargebacks and paypal came through in the end.

    But then again I've been screwed by them as well, but was more of a grey area than black n white.
     
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    I only ask because you sound very guilty. If I had to place a bet I would say you and your friend scammed Paypal
     
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    If you sold virtual goods, and he paid with his credit card, you lose 100%


    If you sold virtual goods, and he paid with his paypal balance, you win 100%

    Do you understand?
     
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  9. fcsbraduku

    fcsbraduku Newbie

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    can you help me sending the best proof that i can ?
    Edit : i didnt mention that the buyer payed in more steps ( 30 once 30 once etc )
    at one of the 4 transactions i received this message from paypal :


    We have reviewed the case. Because you have not met Seller Protection performance requirements , the transaction will be reversed. The case is now closed.
     
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  10. henkepenka

    henkepenka Registered Member

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    I got scammed by a jerk and got a negative balance. I ignored it, but one day I got a letter from a Swedish (live in sweden) company working together with paypal with demands to pay of the negative balance. In my case it was not only $175 but much much more money involved.

    I lost the dispute, but I have not given up yet. I have help to file a fraud report at the Chicago police department and I will send over the case number to Paypal, as soon as I get it, saying that the police is looking into it. Don´t know if it helps, but worth to try.

    If you want you can check out my thread about my situation: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/764561-scammed-lot-money-paypal.html

    I wish you the best of luck!
     
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    If you prove us that you didn't scam anyone , we would probably give you a hand as about this issue , otherwise forget about it ,
     
  12. fcsbraduku

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    what do you think i should do ?
    how can i proove that ?
    i will tell you the full story
    i posted on csgolounge a trade where with that item
    i was contacted by 4-5 person and all , except this guy just sent me invoices ( something normal for this community )
    This guy asked me for a price , i said the price and my paypal email . he sent me the money and i gave him the item . nothing simpler than that .
    i wanted to sell the item to buy something from ebay way before this happened . i was searching for about 2 days to sell the item on opskins but without succes so i decided to post it on lounge .
    i immediatly bought something from ebay and i was happy . after few hours i read my email and here we are . what can i tell you guys to prove that ?
     
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    i really need your help guys . i will read your comments tommorow in the morning . thank you in advance :(
     
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    Call them if you're confident. Express to them your concern.
     
  17. bmminc

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    Mine has been negative for a while and they haven't done anything. It kinda sucks. I was making a good amount selling xbox live codes on ebay.
    I had 100% positive feedback for months.

    Then, bam. Chargebacks came pouring in. Because it was a digital good I lost the case even though I showed documented proof that the guy used the code and they even left me positive feedback saying it was good!

    To make it more retarded, the people who won their paypal chargeback had 100% NEGATIVE feedback from sellers saying the guy was scamming and doing chargebacks.

    I really cannot see how paypal can be so incompetent. I refuse to sell anything with paypal anymore.
     
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    kakabong Registered Member

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    reading all these stories make me feel like online forums like BHW are still decent... at least in BHW marketplace, most disputes are settled peacefully and amicably without any chargebacks (not to say there arent any though, but a lot lesser)
     
  19. moneymagnet246

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    Unlink everything from there, or call your card company telling them to not allow anything to do with paypal. youre safe in most cases
     
  20. fcsbraduku

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    hei . i already lost the cases .
    I said that my card is attached but is not verified . so they dont know if its mine or if its a fake one .