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What Google Did.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by zombie affiliate, Sep 26, 2011.

  1. zombie affiliate

    zombie affiliate Registered Member

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    I keep seeing questions about the Panda update and I've spent most of the day looking for the best way to build links after the update. Anyway, Here's how it went.

    1. Most of the sites that took a huge hit had been blocked by users in their Chrome browser. 84% to be exact, and those sites just did not fit into the user experience. (G is built for it's users and does not owe any of us anything, it's tough to swallow, grow a pair;))

    2. Ads. That's right ads. The department that runs adsense and the spam department do not work together. While the adsense department will tell you the more ads the better, Matt that works G's spam department will tell you that having to many ads on your site just does not fit into the user experience. So watch the amount of ads you throw on your site, and I've also heard some things about rel=no****** ing your banner ads could be a no-no too, but no official word on that.

    3. CONTENT. Content is huge now. Stop being a lazy fuck be creative and write original content that benefits people. Stop Copying PLR's, Article marking garbage, and spinning bullshit content. It takes time to make original content. (If I was going to build a wall to keep out zombies I would not cut corners, so if your life (money) depends on not cutting corners (writing original content) why would you cut corners?) Writing original content that users want to read and engages them will allow you to with stand the long haul.
    But I can't come up with good content on my own. Then pick something else to do, bottom line. Can't come up with content all the time? Guest posting could be a good option to help you out. Open a couple spots to allow someone to guest post.

    4. Social media. Be more active in social media.

    That about sums the update up. so stop bitching about this and that, and actually do something that makes the net a better place. I also wanted to comment on the post about the panda loophole. Yes, there is a loophole, it's an algorithm. But with G+ rolling out They may rely less on that algorithm. About the loophole, I read an article that interviewed G engineers and in the article they admitted a loophole.

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  2. artizhay

    artizhay BANNED BANNED

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    Valuable tips that cannot be found anywhere else.
     
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  3. kirkonpolttaja

    kirkonpolttaja Senior Member

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    3.b CONTENT. spun shit to buffer sites, unique quality shit to money sites.
     
  4. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    lol.
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  5. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    Myself and my bank manager wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. Just spin very deep with good software.
    Word/Sentence/Paragraph/link/anchor text all should be spun.

     
  6. DustinSD

    DustinSD Registered Member

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    Agreed. I wrote a script that does all those things, and also separates sentence fragments into individual sentences if they can stand on their own, and removes or truncates sentences that don't make grammatical sense. G can't seem to get enough of my content, even after Panda. no, this content doesn't make much sense to a human reader, but it is unique enough and makes enough grammatical sense to pass muster by a bot. i think people assume that google is using some super advanced AI to actually *comprehend* content, and while i'm sure google does possess such software, there is no way they are using it on every website because of the monstrous computational power that would require. Panda as it stands already uses huge computational power, so I'm sure it was designed to use elegant, resource-efficient tricks to get the job done whenever possible. this software design can be exploited if you're willing to actually put some time and energy into your spinning.

    it really annoys me reading all these SEOs on forums (especially google webmaster forums!) trashing other people's content and acting like Google can actually *understand* the content. they've bought into Google hype, and believe the search engine is far more powerful than it actually is. SHEEP.
     
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  7. zombie affiliate

    zombie affiliate Registered Member

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    If your not going to take the time to read what your spinning then don't do it. I'm talking about downloading PLR's and still using them after they've been spun to death. There is a great post on spyntax, but I can't find it now. It gives you a better idea on how it works. My exact words were
    If it was bullshit content before, spinning it will only make it into bird shit, dog shit, cow shit, ect...

    This is the ultimate goal:
    Panda was to get rid of the sites that were at the top of the rankings that got blocked by people using chrome.

    Each point talks about user experience. I make my site about the users. I spin my content sometimes, and I'm not against it. I can read the content I spin afterwards, and it makes complete sense. I do that for my readers, not for google. My readers pay my rent, and the least I could do for them is give them good quality content to read.

    Were does it say in my post that G's bots can understand the content, and knows what it means? Point that out to me. It really annoys me reading all these SEO's on forums trashing other people's content... What the fuck did you just try and do to me? I could have gone a lot more in depth in my original post, but I didn't want to start blabing secrets, or giving pieces away.
     
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  8. eterxx

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    Well that's an interesting thread.

    I agree about the unique content part for sure, and I think Google is also more meticulous about checking your backlinks:
    - are they from diverse IPs?
    - are they contextual links?
    - are the anchors different?
    - are they consistent?
    - do some backlinks come from authority sites?
     
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  9. artizhay

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    I'm surprised OP thanked my post. Someone doesn't detect sarcasm well.
     
  10. blackwaterhull

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    I have always been unsure about the rel=no
     
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    Where have you found that number?

    WOW! That's a new one! LOL! Do you think I can say that now, "content is king" or something like that? Panda really shook my world;)
     
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    I agree , u should put yourself in Google position , then work on your site
     
  14. zombie affiliate

    zombie affiliate Registered Member

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    http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/03/the-panda-that-hates-farms/all/1
    It's a Q and A session with a couple of G's engineers. It explains a lot. I could have gone into everything that I learned from my search a little more in depth, but I wanted to check the initial response of the post. My biggest share thus far didn't go as planned.

    Fuck it

    It's an amazing tool. I use that and some other tools, some popular, some not so popular.

    The most important aspect of this thread was supposed to be on the backlinking process and how it's changed. Google is going to continue to roll out Panda updates, but there are loopholes as stated in the article.

    Backlinks are one of the most important parts.

    Code:
    http://searchengineland.com/seotable
    periodic table of ranking factors can help those who are having trouble figuring out what to do.