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What do you think of this Web2.0 + Social + PBN Construction?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by yoyopart, Mar 22, 2015.

  1. yoyopart

    yoyopart Newbie

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    Hi,

    this is my first thread but I read a lot for month. I'm from Germany and I'm very grateful for all of your threads and postings, especially for the "Ask me anything about PBN" thread from "Alexthepbndude", thanks!

    To get back to my topic, I've a question regarding to my new PBN + WEB2.0 + SOCIAL construction.

    So far my ranking strategy was like: PBN links and WEB2.0 links to my Moneysite. This works great as you know but it takes quite a long time to rank and I'm searching for new constructions which may work better.

    I want to test a new one, what do you think of this construction?


    • 10 PBN sites linking with Money KW Anchor to 5 Web2.0 Blogs (2 PBN sites for 1 Web2.0 Blog).
    • These 5 Web2.0 Blogs are built like a Linkwheel, so they are linking to each other with Money KW Anchors but also with Generic/naked Anchors.
    • 10 middle quality expired Domains (TF => 12, CF =< 12, DA~15-25, MOZTrust ~3-4, no spam) have a 301 to the 5 Web2.0 Blogs, so every Web2.0 Blog has 2 expired Domains as a 301.
    • 3 Social Accounts (Twitter, Facebook, G+) are linking to my Moneysite and every Web2.0 Blog is linking to every Social Account.
    • All 5 Web2.0 Blogs are linking 2-3 times to my Moneysite with different Money KW Anchors.
    • My Moneysite is an expired domain with niche relevance, so it already has KW diversification.
    • All PBN sites and Web2.0 Blogs have good quality unique niche relevant content.

    For better understanding see the attached image.

    I saw Web2.0 Blogs with this linkwheel and Expired 301 technique which had Moz page Trust 3-5 and TF 50, CF 40 (!!!). And yes, the subdomain, not the root domain. I think it's possible to rank very good with this concept because now it's normal that a Moneysite has Social Accounts and Web2.0 Accounts. So innerlinking between those Web2.0 accounts is perhaps not flagged as unnatural. The PBN is built without footprints.

    If you also think that this may work, I will test it and let you know about my progress.

    Many thanks in advance for every opinion!

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    Last edited: Mar 22, 2015
  2. traveler329

    traveler329 Registered Member

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    1. the PBN should be pointing directly at your money site as Tier1 - not at the Web2.0s
    2. there is too much interlinking, may trigger a link wheel penalty. but if its only 3 properties it may not trigger anything
     
  3. koolkake

    koolkake Regular Member

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    Why are you linking PBN's to web 2.0's? It would be much smarter to link the web 2.0's to PBN's. Obviously because the PBN's will be stronger, you want the stronger tiers closest to your moneysite as possible (as long as they are safe links, and if you're building safe PBN's you should be fine).

    Don't interlink your web 2.0's. You'll be leaving a footprint. If you link out to other authority sites on the web 2.0 along with some interlinks, you could get away with it. But I'd advise to stay from interlinking all together. Add the social signals to the PBN's, and if you get the chance, add some to the web 2's as well.
     
  4. qrazy

    qrazy Senior Member

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    Point your web 2.0s to the PBN and PBN to the money site as suggested above. You aren't gonna see any effect of the PBNs with this current hierarchy.
     
  5. neverquitting

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    Yeah, I see that you're trying to maximize your juice, but that's a massive footprint. Depending on how much you have invested in this, it's probably not worth it just to see it all get deindexed. If you want to play the interlinking game, either have it go in one direction (so as to not complete a wheel) or what I do with my Web 2.0s is think of them as individual people (each having made a few blogs for themselves). People would obviously interlink their own blogs, but then only in a couple cases should it actually link to you and there should be other links on the sites as well, etc. Treat them all really nicely and make 'em look legit so they'd pass any sort of manual review. I think (this is just speculation, mind you) that would give you a lot more leeway in terms of pumping juice behind those links.
     
  6. W9go

    W9go Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    expired as tier 2 ???? point them direct to ms
     
  7. safex

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    One suggestions, You using pbn + web2.0 but in wheel format, You know that web2.0 wheels now gives footprint to google? plus try to twist your plan a little bit more safer, pbn to money site, web 2.0's for pbn's, tier juice for web 2.0's & social traffic for all etc try to be different.
     
  8. vikiendu

    vikiendu Regular Member

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    keep it simple.

    you are overthinking.