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What Do You Think of a PR0 Blog Network?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by TheMatrix, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. TheMatrix

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    Hey people.

    Just saw this thread in TrafficPlanet:

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    http://trafficplanet.com/topic/1168-suggestion-on-pr-0-blog-networks/
    Almost all the people who replied there support this idea. What do you think of this? Can someone from BHW start something like this?
     
  2. midnight_focus

    midnight_focus Power Member

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    spun articles on new domains will be deindexed very fast and the network will be useless
     
  3. ryanjm

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    ^This. PR0 sites wouldn't be bad for tier 2 links, BUT if they are full of spun trash, they will be de-indexed fast.
     
  4. jon_xx_x

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    I think there are enough PR1+ networks around that this isn't needed.
    Plus oif you want low quality links, just use AMR, blog comments, forum profiles.
     
  5. reallife

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    I use my own PR0 adult blog network (with a few PR1s sprinkled in) for 1st/2nd tier sites - they're all very aged domains so I've been able to hit them with a sledgehammer pretty successfully at times.
     
  6. TheMatrix

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    So yeah, this definitely is a dumb idea..

    I see people there are suggesting these links for link pyramids as well. Do you think these links can be useful for tier 2/tier 3 links? I mean we do SB/XR blasts for that, but if we replace with contextual backlinks that would actually be good. Right?
     
  7. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    What exactly is wrong with tiering web 2.0s? besides people being too lazy and inept to build the tools to do it?
     
  8. reallife

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    The way things have been going in terms of contextual replacing crap links - it could only be good, I would think.
     
  9. Justmetheuser

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    I haven't had much luck with them .... :(
     
  10. optimusweb

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    Given that the sites will be new and full of low quality spun content I don't think they will be given much value..

    I've tested astro cirta content bot which submits to 10,000+ blog network which are mostly PR0.

    Got some initial results when submitting original content with it, only for the results to drop off again later, so I don't think they stay indexed for long. I then uploaded about 2000 of the links to backlink booster indexing service but still no improvement.

    You get loads of contextual links but the sites are all low quality. It has an in built article scraper so the blogs will have a crap load of dupe content on them which probably doesn't help. On top of that it submits the exact same article to every single blog without even the option of spinning it.
     
  11. auw21

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    Spun content won't get your sites deindexed

    but....

    Blog with 20-100 post/day with unreadable content will get deindexed so fast...
     
  12. auw21

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    Agree....

    i won't joint this network too :)

    save your money
     
  13. hispdcha

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    I've started many networks for my own use and they always start at PR0. It can be done and it can be extremely successful if you do it right. What do you think web 2.0's start out at? PR0. There is very little benefit from the sub-domain being a PR9 on Wordpress.com etc.

    Building your own network starting with new domains/aged domains that have PR0 is just as expensive as buying REAL PR sites (not those fake PR websites) as it is to build links to your own properties. The only difference is your ability. If you can't build the links yourself to prop up your network, then buy high pr domains (real pr, not shit from DP), if you can build links yourself, then by all means it makes sense to build your own network starting from the bottom. Besides, building web 2.0's for link building isnt' very effective in the long term as most sites will be deleted at some point if you're using spun content. With your own network, you know that your sites will never be deleted.

    What do you think is a better first tier of links? Web 2.0 properties, or your own network of sites that you have full control over, won't be deleted, won't be no-followed, and can link from the home page to your money site? How many links do you build to your web 2.0 properties that you could build to your own sites and keep ALL that link equity? The only problem is paying for hosting, which most noobs can't do, however if you're serious about SEO and spend a good chunk of change on it, build your own network either with high PR domains if you can, or start with PR0. You'll be way better off in the long run if you do.
     
  14. optimusweb

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    Yep, that's the thing with Astro Cirta, doesn't allow spinning so even if you submit a unique article it's going to post that exact article 10,000 times.

    The thread title is 'What Do You Think of a PR0 Blog Network?' and seeing as AC is a PR0 blog network and I recently tested it thought I'd give it a mention, but I realise that I probably shouldn't have let my post turn into a review of astro cirta as it is totally unrelated to the network in question. My bad.
     
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  15. crzyyoungn

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    I agree.

    Has anyone heard of something called Article Marketing Robot?

    Well the majority of the sites it hits are PR0 and many of the one's that are still on there were relatively new when they were added to the software. Most of them get thousands of articles posted to them a day and they're still fine. There might be a few that close down here and there but I'll bet the main reason for that is that the article directory owner had so many account creations, article posting and bot hits (from spiders and 2nd tier linking link Xrumer,SB,etc.) that they're hosting crashed and hence they let it die.

    This has been done for years and it works to this day. Those saying that they would get deindexed are not speaking from experience but rather from heresay (which unfortunately is very common in the seo world). If not then I'd love to actually hear of actual examples of why they believe this to be the case and proof that the spun content was the reason for the deindexation.

     
  16. thetroglodyte

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    Why waste time on anything that will be deindexed? I wouldn't even bother with SB/XR blasts for tier 2/3.

    Take 20 minutes, spin an article once or twice at the sentence level and AMR it.

    Google doesn't give a crap about any link you'll get from an XR blast anymore and once the next Panda update hits you'll just have wasted time and money for sure.

    Take a little more time, build with quality in mind and you'll last through the sands of time :)
     
  17. krisbritt

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    i think if you are making less links they are made from the quality sites its enough for you to get the good rank from google. A lots of people say that links exchagne is not worth, but i do links exchange for my sites and its work really, because i make very qualitative and related links.

    Hope this will help you
     
  18. crzyyoungn

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    Astro Cirta allows users to post the same unspun article across the whole entire network. That is why they end up getting deindexed and/or are weak.

    Yes they also happen to have mostly PR 0 sites but that has nothing to do with the reason why it's weak or has a high deindexation rate. Correlation does not imply causation my friend.

     
  19. crzyyoungn

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    It seems you're not familiar with higher level link spam.

    The guys in the pharma/porn/gambling tend to rank just fine with the use of XR and SB so long as it's used correctly. Just because you don't know how to use SB and XR the right way doesn't mean it doesn't work. It just means you don't know how to use it correctly.

     
  20. optimusweb

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    True. Point taken. And you were a lot nicer about it than the other guy :D