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What do you think is a good salary working (linkbuilding) for a Seo Agency in CA?

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  1. freckletone

    freckletone Regular Member

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    CA is California btw. What do you consider a decent salary? The firm is midsize; we have around 80 clients now and they are all "big" clients, not small mom and pop businesses like doctors or dentists but big ones including some big clients that you would recognize (there is one that is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and always in the newspaper and press because they received billion dollar bailouts from the U.S government). I am the one who does the link building for ALL of the clients (close to 90 now). I don't have to ever talk to the clients (we have customer service people for that) or do on-page work or keyword or research... Only linkbuilding; blog comments, articles etc.

    I don't want to say how much I earn. I am just curious to see what you people think would be a good salary for someone in my position so I can see how it compares to my actual salary. I've been working there for a year now.
     
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  3. b1step-ahead

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    Sounds like your in the DACI - Drivers, approvers, contributors, and those that need to be informed.
    So if your in seo part, I'd say they started you off at 45k. I would guess your in the 65k range now?
     
  4. freckletone

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    lol, they did start me off at 45k annually but I've been there a year now and did receive an increase. I am NOWHERE near 65k... hahahhaaa.... Just a tad under 50k... Is that decent considering there are so many clients?
    What is DACI, never heard of that?
     
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    Well just curious to know but are you guys talking about the annual salary or monthly. I just want to get an idea of cost of living depending on the salary.
     
  6. freckletone

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    ANNUAL OF COURSE. I am only an employee. lol. No SEO agency is going to pay an employee $45k a month... WTF.

    I live frugally and live with roommates so cost of living is not high for me, even in California.

    I do have good benefits; medical, dental, 401k...

    I'm only a worker bee. My boss is the one who manages the SEO department; we have other people who do on-page text and keyword reports. I only do linkbuilding and nothing else.
     
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    I'd honestly try this site to get a decent idea: www.payscale.com It's been around forever and you can get pretty accurate results based on the city you live in.

    What you can ask to a firm, hmm let's say in Fresno is VERY DIFFERENT from what you can ask to a firm in Berkeley or Oakland... Same state, different city... ;)
     
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    on this planet, I would say annual, not sure about the other planets
     
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    I know about that site. I don't feel like setting up an account because they ask a million questions.
     
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    Come on mate. Who can tell you how much you should get without any more details? that is pure BS.

    Create another thread and share your experiences with us. Especially working for such big firms and what you exactly do. Will that suit you? (ofcourse not!!!):)
     
  11. freckletone

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    Linkbuilding all day long; writing articles, spinning them, posting them to sites like Ezine and UAW, blog comments, local directories and social bookmarking. That's about it. I usually write an article every day and submit it everywhere (spinned) and then do a gazillion blog comments :)
     
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    If you have 90 clients, and you work 8 hours a day , 22 hours a month, that means you only spend like 2 hours per month for linkbuilding for each client ?
     
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  13. freckletone

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    I don't want to give away too much info but I work for many clients at the same time since I spin anchor text, I can work on 10 clients per article submission... or even more if need be I am also a fast worker; I work non stop... and I don't take breaks. I can take breaks but I choose not to (I take my lunch of course) I usually get in links for over 10-15 clients in a day... or even more. I was the one who actually developed the spinning method so we can cover many clients at one time... I didn't invent it but no one in the office did it before I started working there.

    I work on multiple clients at one time. I am also a super fast worker in general; they have called me "super human" and "super fast" before.
     
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    I am charging 5$/hour but working free lance as you re working for an established company it should be 9$/hour minimum ..
     
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    Im taking some courses on internet marketing and its term they use. I've learned way more in bhw, but the courses are worth it for me.

    Most of my instructors say that after working in a agency for a year you can write your own check, most people leave after 2. Not sure if this is bs, but when I look around for job offers, the top seo guys are getting over 100k and more. What does your average client pay, can you perform all the tasks yourself. If yes, fuck em and leave, start your own show.
     
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    I CAN'T do it myself because I am anti social and I can't talk to people. I would never be able to talk to a client if they have questions and some get irate sometimes and demand this and that. I'm a very anti-social person. I can't even speak up in company meetings let alone clients; I'm basically a quiet person with no opinion. lol A real "internet geek" who is more comfortable being online.

    In order for the company to even LAND these clients they need to do presentations. There were times when we had to compete with other agencies to land a client. I could never do a presentation and I'm not a people person.

    Also, the owners of the company even have meetings with the client to do updates and inform them of progress. Even eat with them and such. I am the most anti social person ever.. I can't talk to anyone and I don't make small talk.

    At work I can just listen to music all day and I don't have to talk to anyone (which suits me better).

    I don't even talk to most of my co-workers (I just work all day) let alone clients.

    I get scared when my phone rings at work (lol). It's usually someone who pressed the wrong extension and somehow got my line but that already freaks me out.

    I only want to do linkbuilding; I don't want to deal with clients or be forced to interact with them etc or have to answer their questions.

    Unless I can get clients who are fine with only talking through e-mail or icq.
     
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    Well than link building fits your persona for sure. I think they could bump you up to 60k. I live in ca too, and 50k a year especially in the san jose area is like minimum wage. The average 1 bedroom not-remodeled apartment is going for 1100-1200 a month and then some.

    Try applying to another agency, if you get a offer let your current boss or hr person know and they will match your salary, if they let you go your covered anyway.
     
  18. freckletone

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    I live with roommates. Even in Orange County and Los Angeles, if you know where to look and look hard you can rent a room for $500-$600 MAX (Craigslist). If you REALLY know where to look you can even find one for like $350-$400 (this would be classifieds in Asian newspapers)

    Also, if I I wanted to, I could qualify for an apartment around $1,100. You can generally qualify for anything that is one third of your monthly income before taxes.
     
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    I'm kind of scared to work at another agency in case they expect me to talk to clients or something. I read that some SEO folks are expected to deal with the clients... lol I am lucky because I don't need to at my work.
     
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