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What causes this to happen? (pic)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by turdface, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    Gentlemen,

    I've been seen a lot of sites do this recently:

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    Normally this precedes them disappearing from the SERPs.

    Some of these sites are mine, and some are ones I track for fun.

    I see this happen to sites that are currently having SEO work done to them as well as sites that are having no SEO work done to them.
     
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  2. schwagoo

    schwagoo Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    'google dance' bud.. happens with aggressive link building all the time
     
  3. Beingakrant

    Beingakrant BANNED BANNED

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    Go home Google. You're drunk. :D
     
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  4. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with aggressive link building. I have sites I haven't touched in 6 months do that.
     
  5. RealEcon

    RealEcon Regular Member

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    Yeah, I know whats causing it. Check out the site in my avatar for more clues. Its happening everytime you post content, right?


    Adding content causes, what appears as a minor google dance. Now why would that happen?

    When everyone learns what is really going on with Googles current algo. Its going to be the good old days of 2009/2010 all over again:)

    Wait about 30 days and WSOs should start popping up explaining it. But honestly there is enough clues floating around to figure it out for free.
     
  6. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    Vague post is vague.

    No, it isn't related to posting content, because as I said this has been happening to sites of mine that I haven't touched for 6 months, including no posting content and no linkbuilding.
     
  7. RealEcon

    RealEcon Regular Member

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    Ok then it could be the sites that are linking to you, updating their content. This probably wont make sense, but how it works is, you have a backlink that is in a post that is in a category on someones site. And that site is posting new posts to that category all the time. The power of those new posts coming into contact with your link is making your site jump up and down.

    Its why you see a lot of the top ranking sites only updating their sites/blogs once or twice a week. Because if your site or someone elses site who is linking to you is updating (with really well written content) all the time you are going to get this strange dance effect.

    If you set your site structure up in a different way like a Silo or something similar, then the content bounces should settle down.
     
  8. garrido

    garrido Supreme Member

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    what daaaaa ffffff......
     
  9. RealEcon

    RealEcon Regular Member

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    I know its the craziest thing anyone has ever heard.

    But trust me, Googles current algo doesnt work the way most people think it does;-)
     
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    mohammedsuhaib Junior Member

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    wow.. i was in such a bad mood.. cussing everybody around me and the info on this thread made me go woo. woo. woo..
     
  11. turdface

    turdface Supreme Member

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    So you're saying your page is influenced by the frequency at which the people who link to you post new content?

    I link to you. You get linkjuice. I post a bunch of articles on my site. Your page bounces around?
     
  12. TwistedSEO

    TwistedSEO Regular Member

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    I've seen this happening to some of my sites too. I think it's just google transitional rank. (Trying to catch people who react to it)

    On my sites, this kind of movement doesn't seem to correlate with posting rate, backlink rate, or.... my backlinks posting rate... It only happens to specific keywords and so far, it always happens to an obviously targeted keyword. The funny thing is when this happens, traffic barely even changes. Only that one specific keyword bounces. Long tail traffic is still the same, and long tail usually makes up 60-70% of my traffic.

    Everything else stays the same (that's why I think it's google transitional algorithm). I just keep doing whatever I'm doing pretending it's not happening, and eventually it settles.
     
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  13. RealEcon

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    Right, its possible. With the way the current algo works, posting good content can cause a dance for your site or for site you link directly out to. Its similar to the old google dance where link juice from links causes the dance. But now it is the content causing the dance.

    Although, TwistedSEO makes a good point as well.
     
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    shanna_doll Power Member

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    I had experienced the same.. and I would like to know more about this.
     
  15. turdface

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    I would say at least 50% of the time when I see this, it's preceding a drop out of the SERPs.

    I've had at least a few sites basically go like this:

    2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 2, 2, 3, 3, 2, 4, 2, 2, 50, 50, 4, 4, 50, 50, 5, 5, 100. 100, 20, 20, 100, unranked, unranked, unranked

    But sometimes the opposite happens:

    20, 20, 19, 19, 70, 70, 20, 70, 20, 70, 50, 15, 8
     
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    shanna_doll Power Member

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    Did you find out what cause this? Is it lack of link building ?
     
  17. Panther28

    Panther28 Elite Member

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    I think one of the main factors that people forget about with google is that for lots of results they actually randomize things a bit, so they can collect more accurate data. If your site disappears of the radar, but then people still try to track you down, then this is an indication that your site has value, and will continue to be ranked higher.
     
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    vishal2890 Power Member

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    Mahn, you seriously had a heart attack :D i think it is google dance!