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What according to you is whitehat SEO?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Knoxgates, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. Knoxgates

    Knoxgates Supreme Member

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    Hi,

    As the title says what according to you is whitehat seo. And what kind of links considered as whitehat baclinks.

    Right now i m building contextual backlinks by writing guest posts on other peoples blogs and the results are not that great. Results might be slow but i m sure that the work that i m putting will reap benefits later.

    Any other type of backlinks to create for whitehat projects.
     
  2. flx89

    flx89 Senior Member

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    white hat = do nothing and pray to rank high
     
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  3. KraftyKyle

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    Whitehat is the basics of SEO: onpage SEO, building backlinks, writing articles, etc.

    Whitehat becomes blackhat with software: scrapebox to build backlinks, AMR for articles, etc.
     
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  4. meatro

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    Yeah, white hat means not building any links yourself. If you do, you use the rel="nofollow" attribute. Otherwise you're "manipulating the SERPs."

    I've had SEO companies tell me that whitehat simply means not using automation, but if you read the Google guidelines.. It means not link building.

    You're supposed to just create quality content and let people link to it at their own will. Which is great if you're somebody like HP, Kraft, Ford or Nike. Otherwise, it's pretty much a death sentence because not very many businesses, especially smaller ones, have that sort of reach.
     
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    In simple terms, get backlinks from related websites = Whitehat

    Lol, you can do that using blackhat as well. !
     
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    Whitehat = link building with quality links, even if you do it yourself with article marketing or whatever.

    Blackhat = automation, spinning, spamming, cloaking, proxies, showing different pages to Google than you show to humans, doing stuff that could be considered "sneaky."
     
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  8. blackfairy

    blackfairy Regular Member

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    It's a common misunderstanding that a white hat isn't allowed to build links. And no, the Google guidelines does not say you aren't allowed to build links in general. It says you aren't allowed to build link schemes for the purpose of manipulation the pagerank, you aren't allowed to buy or sell links and you aren't allowed to excessiv exchange links.
    Please read it by yourself:

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    It's absolutely not forbidden to write a guest article and include a link to your site, if your intention isn't manipulating the page rank.

    Also please note, it says excessive link exchange. This doesn't mean link exchange in general is forbidden, only excessive link exchange is forbidden.
     
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  9. meatro

    meatro BANNED BANNED

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    No, you guys saying that building "quality" links is white hat. Read the guidelines again:

    http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35769
    Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"

    Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.

    White hat = your rank increases ORGANICALLY. Organically means you no touchy.

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    Yes, you CAN build links. You can build NOFOLLOW links. Even if you didn't "intend" to manipulate the PR, the whole idea of exchanging DF links is designed to manipulate PR. While it's not as bad as full blown spamming, manslaughter is also not as bad as murder if you didn't "intend" to kill the person.
     
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  10. Autumn

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    Not necessarily. Trading links for traffic has been a time honoured promotional technique since long before Google ever came on to the scene; the early web was based on reciprocal linking.

    Trying to get relevant links for direct traffic and trading links with relevant sites will never be seen as spamming. There's nothing wrong with asking people to link to you if you've got a quality site, or putting a link in a forum sig to get direct traffic, or doing some other self promotion like submitting a really good article to a social bookmarking site.
     
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  11. meatro

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    Yes, so long as they're nofollow. Otherwise, how is that not manipulating PR?

    "The best way to get other sites to create relevant links to yours is to create unique, relevant content that can quickly gain popularity in the Internet community. The more useful content you have, the greater the chances someone else will find that content valuable to their readers and link to it."

    BUT... This is one of those topics that's infinite. Google's definitions of just about everything is so broad, you can translate it just about any way. This argument really has no end.
     
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  12. blackfairy

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    No, increasing the pagerank isn't the one and only intention of a link exchange. A link exchange can also provide value to the users. Let's say your site's about dogs and mine too. Let's further say your site contains some really awesome pics of dogs, while mine has some nice unique content. If we now would exchange links, your users would benefit from the ability to read my content and my users would benefit from the ability to see your pics.
    Hasn't anything at all to do with pagerank or seo.
     
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  13. Autumn

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    I disagree that nofollow comes into it in that situation. Cuttsfag has specifically mentioned PAID links as suitable targets for nofollowing, but relevant links that drive traffic from on topic sites are the kinds of links that the citation-based web is based on. Yes, they will cause your link juice to increase, but that is a side effect and not necessarily the intended main effect (which is to drive new visitors to your wonderful site).

    Driving direct traffic is different from driving link juice, and in the future SEO will be based more and more on driving and measuring direct traffic (or manipulating reporting agencies to that effect). A good rule of thumb is: if the link drives on topic, clicked traffic and it's not paid, it's fine. If you paid for it then it should be nofollow. If it's an obscured link that no one will click on and that's just there for SE benefit (especially with artificial keyword anchor text), then that probably falls outside the realm of whitehat link building.

    If I take a funny photo of my dog, post it on my blog, submit the post to reddit because I think other people will enjoy it, and it then gets 2000 upvotes and sends 60K visitors, that's a perfectly valid link, should pass link juice, and doesn't deserve to be nofollowed... even though I submitted it.
     
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  14. Techxan

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    It amazes me that some people think you cannot build links and be whitehat.

    White hat simply means do not promote your website in a way that Google does not approve of.


    "What they approve of", is a moving target.

    It boils down to this: Google does not mind if you promote your business in a natural way. People naturally tell other prople about their web sites. People do NOT naturally tell 10000 other sites about their website in a week. These other websites find your web site in time, and they link to it. This linking follows a natural pattern that google has evaluated for years, and their algorithms will flag your site if it starts to see unnatural linking.

    Google will NEVER punish your site if you engage is traditional business practices with your site.

    One fool even posted in another thread, Don't do any on-page seo.

    How the hell is Google going to know what your website is about if you don't do any on page SEO?

    Goggle does not want you gaming the system in order to improve your rankings, it is as simple as that.

    Google expects you to run a website as a business, promoting your business is natural.

    Build all the links manually, do not ping them, just let them be found by Google when they get around to it, and you will never have problem with your linking.

    Use automation, and you get slapped.

    Everybody is asking how many links can you build. You can build as many as fast as your website will gain them naturally. If you have as site 2 months old, and it gets a few incoming links a day, when it starts getting hundreds a day, Google will notice.

    If you have a site that gets hundreds of links a day naturally, then it can get hundreds of links everyday and there will be no problem.

    White hat means play by the rules Google has laid out, if you can figure out said rules.
     
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  15. unique1

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    White hat link building is that when your website get a link on related website with having quality content of atleast 300 words which must have "Keyword" in <h1> , <h2> heading.

    You can Surf Social Bookmarking Site for that That will Help you at best as now google panda prefer social bookmarking first over Commenting, Directory submission and Profile linking.
    So Just Try To Get Link from High PR Social Bookmarking with quality content as now Google panda has its own methodologies for 'Auto' link building
     
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    With out spamming any forum, blog, bookmarking.

    by writing pure unique article with rich keyword content and promoting them in a blog and article directories is one of the methods in white hat seo.
     
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    This is the best explanation. Let your site grow naturally, you will most likely not face any problems.
     
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    White hat..hmm working 19 hours a day to get 100 Live links and maximum pr1 links...then Getting Disappointed with your site and hiring some one who claims he is doing White hat but will use Bots to make your site Ranked in Google with Tools which you was unable to do so....
     
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  19. Dan Da Man

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    Honestly, who cares! This debate goes on and on. Let us make it simple.

    white hat=chumps
    black hat=hustlers

    You decide what you want to be
     
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