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WH Site journal - yeah another one - sorry lol

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by JasonG, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. JasonG

    JasonG Regular Member

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    Okay BHW so, if you are into journals - this is my first and I've been around for a while, read a few journals and well, I am going to attempt to keep up on this one and honestly its because I have a project that I am pretty pumped about. If you are not into journals, don't hate - just leave the thread, but I am just going to log my data, my thoughts, and my results in here and (maybe) help/inspire some people along the way.

    To start a little background on me - I am a 3rd grade teacher actually so, this is kind of my side hobby, but yeah I just graduated from college last May and was able to get a teaching job in my hometown. Anyway, if you guys know how little teachers make you understand why I am on here trying to make an extra buck :)

    So here goes it - some KW research data that I was able to come up with for this project...

    KW gets 22,200 [exact] searches each month
    Plain google search brings 148,000 results
    "KW" brings 25,500
    Allintitle:2,250
    allinurl: 1,630
    adwords cpc: .29 - .35 (not the highest, but I am hoping with high volume I can maybe make $5-10/day???)

    Annnnnd the kicker - I was able to get the exact keyword in the .com - as you can probably see - I am super stoked about those results.

    Now this is really just an informational type of website - not geared towards anything you can "buy" which is the only downside, however, I am going to put up a CPA banner or two on the page to see what that might do for the revenue stream... like I said with the adsense - it might not be laser targeted towards a specific product the surfer is looking for but it might catch their eye - everybody likes "free" stuff right?


    So anyway, I built the site last weekend just a simple three page site for now - the info page, a privacy policy, and a site map and I was indexed at page 9. Within 2 days I was at page 6 - really pumped to see that movement, but obviously I don't want anything less that position 1 on page one. It's been a few days and I am sitting at page 6, but I am going to start writing some articles and do some 2.0 backlinking and see how that goes.

    Now here is the deal with this journal - like I said, I am a 3rd grade teacher full time, I won't abandon the journal but it is unlikely that I will update every single day - it might be once a week, or once every other, but either way, I am determined to get this site to position one on page one either way, so, welcome to my journey.

    -Jason

    Oh yeah, if you have any questions feel free to ask, if I can't answer I am sure I can find someone who knows the answer.
     
  2. JasonG

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    Okay, one quick update, so I was at page 6 when I made my last update - 2 days ago, and I am at position 8 on page 3 now... starting to get stoked, seeing movement like this helps get the adrenaline going for sure - I'll write a few articles tonight, make a few profile backlinks and then go on fiverr or hire someone on here to blast those backlinks...

    question about backlinks though - does your IP matter? like if I just use my IP when making all my article links and profile links?

    I feel like it would matter, and be more powerful if they were all from different IP's but, I am not sure if that is definite...
     
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    Your IP (From which you submit an article to directories) doesn't matter.
    But the IP where the site (on which you're leaving your link) is hosted does matter. Like if you get say 100 BLs from a single site e.g. www.asdf.com, the links won't carry much weight.
    But if you get 100 link from 100 different sites, thats the best :p

    Just my 2 cents...
    Bk...
     
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    Makes sense, thank you sir.
     
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    Good job Jason,
    What software are you using for articles and web 2.0?
     
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    The ol' noggin and some elbow grease

    (I do it manually... if you didn't get that haha)

    I would like to get the TBS and SB buuuut, the first thing is is a money issue - can't afford shit right now, and secondly I am on an Imac - one of the new 27 inch ones (love it). So I would have to get something like parallels or VMware Fusion to run SB, and along with buying I would have the learning curve to tackle and if you read my above post - I am a full time 3rd grade teacher, so I don't necessarily have the time to learn how to use SB (plus I am about the least technical person probably on this forum lol)

    I figure I will wait until June - when my summer break starts and have that be my summer project - learn how to harness the power of SB.
     
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    okay, side note to this site I am doing the journal on... I've got a website that is eh... not very lucrative - it gets about 500 UV's/month and I have had it monetized with adsense for about the last 3 months - it maybe gets one or two clicks each week - nothing special, but I did throw up a CPA banner on it about a week ago and had an action last night, it is a CC submit so, I got a $22 sale overnight - very pumped about that, and it is a banner that would work absolutely perfectly with my new site (the one that I am doing the journal on)

    I figure this banner got about 200-300 views before someone took action, and I expect this site that I am working on to get 400-500 UV's each day.... I smell money.
     
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    Okay, I have another question BK (or anyone who knows...) - so, I have a few sites - and going back to the "where the backlink comes from" topic - if I put a link down in the footer of my other sites pointing to my new site, will they just count as 1 link since all of my sites are hosted through the same company? or will, say, 3 links coming from 3 different sites, be counted as 3 links in - even though they are all hosted through the same company?
     
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    Well, Jason, I'm not an "expert" but know pretty much about SEO (At least I think so LOL).

    If you put you link on- say 3 sites- you got 3 backlinks.

    Even if you put your link on 10 different pages of a site, that'd be 10 backlinks. But the reality is that those link will not carry as much "weight" as the links from different IPs do. (I'm supposing that you have shared hosting here)

    Hope it figures it out for you :)

    PS: I found a really nice site for quality backlinks from unique IPs. The site is called SocialMonkee and you can create 25 unique IP backlinks daily for free.
    I'd oblige if you signup under my referral link :D www.socialmonkee.com/index.php?af=4073

    Bk...
     
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    22K Exact searces and you get the key domain. You found a golden one there.
     
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    Yeah, and here is the other amazing part - I didn't do it when I bought the .com, but just today I decided to go back and I bought the .net and .org - both were still available...

    a little bit more of a long term goal - I am going to use those 3 sites and claim the top 3 spots. guarantee almost all of those 22k visitors.

    But yeah, I literally almost shit myself when I found out that that domain was available.
     
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    Damn nice find... Will definitly keep up with this... Sent you a PM
     
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    PM received and sent you a reply.


    current update: no movement in the last couple days... but I am thinking I will see page 2 by Monday... Have been manually building some article/profile backlinks...

    will keep you updated, time to go teach.
     
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    Hey JasonG
    Do not spend your time building profile backlinks manually (my opnion)...thats because the time I spent registering I found much better to spending building web 2.0 properties, which will bring you more results on the longway since its way more whitehat and profile backlinks which is considered spam.

    good luck and nice sig!

    ps: if you quit the journal ill give you bad rep..i will also sending letters and poster about your failure and all the kids will laugh at you...now there is no way back...lol just kidding
     
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    Thanks housemusic, I will start pumping out some 2.0 property links here today, and I don't worry - I won't quit the journal lol, I am enjoying keeping up on it so far - it helps me think about what I am doing, what I have done, and what I still need to do.

    On another topic...

    I know this is the white hat section. but I would like some opinions (if anyone has any) on BH tools such as scrapebox and SENUKE... what are the chances that using a program like this will harm my site and what kind of learning curve is there for it? I just ask that because I am about the least technical person I know... getting a new program is tough for me - not financially, but time wise... if you have to be incredibly tech savvy, it will take me forever to learn it.

    Also - I know that scrapebox is a commenter program - and so I have heard, best practices with SB is that you don't blast your money site, but instead blast all the sites that have links back to your site, giving the BL's to your money site way more juice.

    I am not completely if that is also the case with SENUKE - I think (if I am not wrong, since I haven't researched this much) that it is a social bookmarking program??

    so if I bought and used SENUKE would I be pumping out bookmarks to my money site or would I be loading in my tier 2 sites and nuking them?


    someone school me :)
     
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    Jason,
    SB is not merely a commenting tool. You can do a lot more things than spamming others' blogs LOL with it :)
    Harvesting High PR URLs whether it be blogs or forums is the main task it does. If you are willing to build web2.0 properties, I would highly recommend SB (No, I'm not affiliated with sweetfunny lol). I got 1000 backlinks to my site over the course of a week and it didn't harm a damn thing.

    As for SENuke, I don't know much about it but yeah thats a social bookmarking tool. But it can perform other tasks as well like Web2.0 account creation, article submission and RSS submission etc. Yeah thats pretty cool and I've heard a lot of good stories about that tool. I currently don't have SENuke but it seems to be a great one. Will consider buying it :D

    Just my 2 cents :)

    PS: I'm following your thread closely :D And will keep doing it...

    Bk...
     
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    Thanks for the input BK, I think what I plan on doing is buying all that software when I can safely say I can pay for it with IM earnings - so if I am making at least what SEnuke costs/month I will pick it up - I just don't want to (can't) go into debt with this stuff - I will re-invest what I make.

    Now I did have a question - when you say "if you are willing to build web2.0 properties" do you literally mean build the site? or get links on web2.0 properties?

    I appreciate you following the thread - I started this after I saw your "first $300" thread - inspired me to put my work on here and you obviously know what you are talking about lol, I saw at one point you were averaging ~$100/month with CPA - thats about $99.25 more than I am doing per month right now lol. then $300 in January - If you don't mind me asking how is February coming?
     
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    about the web2.0 i think he means that building a lot of spammy backlicks such blog commenting blasts would not hurt so much a web2.0 website since it has authority.

    I read on a book i think called the 7 habits of highly effective people about people sharing their goals with others (like journals) because they feel more committed. dammit i really have to mark the pages instead of just highlight the pharses...anyway what I tough about about this section of the book is that people create journals just to get a feeling of temporary success, but "we all are good starters and poor finishers" so the real desire have to come from inside of ourselves.:)
     
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    I hear you man, but I don't have any worries about lack of desire - $87,000 in student loans for a degree in elementary education has created a HUGE desire to succeed in me. lol.
     
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    A very wise post indeed :)
    Here is the book for you guys if you want to read it (I recommend that :) ).
    http://www.uwseba.org/_docs/2007/7 Habits of Highly Effective People.pdf