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Weird domain - Aged & has plenty of links but doesn't rank - 301 out of it?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by seo-addict, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. seo-addict

    seo-addict Regular Member

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    So I bought a domain relevant to my niche on Scrapebox (Godaddy), checked it with Majestic & Ahrefs to make sure it didn't have any bad links (It had Zero existing links that I could find).

    I put up content on the domain and spent about $500 in BHW services, mainly blog networks etc. I have a pretty extensive history in SEO and made sure the anchor texts were distributed properly.

    Well now, this site doesn't rank at all, not even in the top 1000. Obviously there must be some sort of pre-existing penalty on this domain to have this much of a negative impact.

    Domain is from 2007, PR0.

    Anyone care to guess if I can 301 out of it?

    Thanks!
    SEO-Addict
     
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  2. nixonsmom

    nixonsmom Registered Member

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    You could try, but there's a chance that the penalty could pass to your new domain.
     
  3. kellyman

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    WMT will now tell you if you have a penalty or not, Look under search traffic and you should see no web spam actions.

    I had a site that had the dreaded Unnatural links, i did a 301 and yes the penalty did follow but only after around 6 weeks so i would Initially 301 and see, If you are the new register of this domain name you can file a reconsideration request if not just 301 and see how it goes ...

    Make sure though your not still in developer mode and have something silly like a now follow or something, i have seen it happen
     
  4. seo-addict

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    Interesting... Not sure if it takes time to update, but I added this site to WMT and it shows No Manual Actions. I do notice Google shows me ranking on a longtail, I typed it in and found my site ranked on about the 5th page --- with a different Title... Strange indeed.
     
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  5. kellyman

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    Would love to take a look, Pm the site if you like.

    Things i would look at are

    Robots text
    Header responses
    Canonical elements
    Hosting/server setup

    then run the site through IIS

    Have you checked your server logs to see if the bots are getting in and crawling, if not just do a fetch as google bot and give it a tweet then check the server logs and see if they are responding
     
  6. Windmill

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    I would not 301 it to a website that was a current money-site, but hey.
     
  7. seo-addict

    seo-addict Regular Member

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    I'm talking about 301'ing it to a new domain and building more HPR links to the new domain. I spent $500 in services on this domain I'd like to at least get some juice out of it.
     
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    The problem though is that if you 301 it, you also risk 301ing your penalty, depending on WHAT that penalty is, and none of us know what it is. If you do that, then you could tarnish all of the money you'll spend on your new site - just making it all go to waste.
     
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    True -- so probably just $500 wasted :speechles ... Meh ... Guess I'll stick to new domains and/or random non-niche relevant aged PR domains from here on out.
     
  10. Windmill

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    Well hard to say, I'm sceptical that all is lost, I think if you add content and leave backlinks and just let it sit for a few months, like 3-4, there could very well be a big change.
     
  11. kellyman

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    From what you have said the site sounds fairly new, it could just be time you need, if you spent $$$ on new services to a brand new site (or dormant site) with 1000's of links it could have triggered a penalty, its really hard to tell without seeing the site or knowing very little about it.

    You mention some of the services were blog networks, you could have been unlucky and bought into a discovered network so its value is worth nothing to you.

    Evaluate the cost spent, against the money earned, as mentioned if its a money site that no longer creates money then burn it, if its a site of value then persevere and try to resolve. it could be that it just needs time if it is very new, again hard to tell on so little info we have and all we can offer are opinions
     
  12. DBMEDIALLC

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    If it's penalized, I wouldn't risk 301 redirecting it. I'd give the domain more time though, it's possible it's just taking time to climb the ranks.
     
  13. iglow

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    doubt its gonan do any good. proapbly has filter for your niche