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Website Stuck on Page 2 for Keyword with 1,660,000 Results

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Supernoob, Jul 9, 2010.

  1. Supernoob

    Supernoob Regular Member

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    Hello Black Hat Forum!

    Some of you may notice me from Warrior Forum, I thought I'd join as every time I google'd certain SEO methods this site always appeared there so it seems a good resource.

    I'm having some trouble getting a client's site of mine to Page 1 of Google, there are 1,660,000 Results (Google UK) results, and it's for the garden furniture niche, it's a e-commerce site.

    I have submitted the sitemap to Google, Bing, Yahoo, Ask and I have generated about 200 Backlinks for it. (Only two show up in Yahoo Site Explorer, BacklinkWatch Shows 200)

    The site was registered in 2002

    Does anyone know how I can further rank the site? I have done a lot of on-page SEO such as h1 tags, linking to external site such as wikipedia, image alt tabs, search terms in url name.

    Thanks :angel:
     
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  2. Megalomaniac Midget

    Megalomaniac Midget Power Member Premium Member

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    With a user name like that, you could be everyone & anyone a WF...

    To answer you question... get more links, more links, more links.
     
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  3. MarketerMac

    MarketerMac Regular Member

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    try actually building links? 200? eak.

    there's an entire services section and like 1/3 of the offers are for link building, read some reviews and buy.
     
  4. smellycat

    smellycat Newbie

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    Outsource the work to me as i've already achieved page one for Garden Furniture in Google.co.uk (for a client) :)
     
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    newkid... Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    200 links is real bad .. that too for a term with 1,660,000 Results... make some 1k quality backlinks and you are done... wont take more than a month.. prefer slow building. high velocity will also do being a old domain but not preferred unless you are in real urgency and ready to take bit risk.
     
  6. Supernoob

    Supernoob Regular Member

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    Ive just ordered 10K xRumer Service for Forums.

    Is there any other good methods to make backlinks for free? Im posting on WordPress blogs using Google Blogs right now
     
  7. Supernoob

    Supernoob Regular Member

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    Crap the guy at the top has 71 THOUSAND backlinks how on earth will I get there :(
     
  8. Megalomaniac Midget

    Megalomaniac Midget Power Member Premium Member

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    i was going to sell this method as a WSO @ WF


    This is how you get links for free...

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  9. Supernoob

    Supernoob Regular Member

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    Yes I have worked out after about buying 20 WSO that they are all scams
     
  10. Supernoob

    Supernoob Regular Member

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    Yes I have worked out after about buying 20 WSO that they are all scams, well 90% of them :(
     
  11. bertbaby

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    You seemed focused on the results. What's the actual traffic for that keyword?
     
  12. PJ Lloyd

    PJ Lloyd Newbie

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    Build more links than the competition...
     
  13. Supernoob

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    The site is now Page 1 (3rd down) on Yahoo UK for the search term since I submitted the sitemap a few hours ago to Yahoo, they didn't even know about the site before I submitted the sitemap woohoo.

    Also being on Page 2 on Google for a few months brings about 60 hits a day, so I'm sure if it was at the front there's be more

    Google Keyword Tool says: 60,500 Global Monthly Searches.
     
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  14. macpaulos

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    is the domain a company name or actual keyword relevant name?

    Like most said, links is the way to go. Articles would be a good idea. Also what's the content like on the clients site? Maybe invest in scrapebox....although not sure how well it's doing nowadays (info can be found here on BHW)

    Lastly, welcome to BHW
     
  15. Supernoob

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    Its the companys domain name, they refuse to change it!

    The content is very good, I've written most of the homepage and included the keyword im targeting a lot.

    I've ordered:
    10K Forum Posts (+ Link in user profile)
    1K Directory Submission

    Hopefully that will help me take over the 3 competitors in front of my blocking me to page 1.

    Ive notcied that all of the websites that Im trying to get above have more backlinks than me, like the one in position 3 on page 2 has 300 backlinks, the one on posion 2 on page 2 has 600 backlinks and so forth....
     
  16. macpaulos

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    Link quantity is a good thing, but as your probably know link quality will shine on through. Maybe rewrite some of the content you have and send those to various article directories. Other than that your on your way, time will show that your efforts will pay off
     
  17. Supernoob

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    Thanks for your help,

    Do you know any way of forums to create profiles on?
     
  18. afallison

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    get senuke or buy an xrumer blast. you'll get backlinks then. chances are that's what #1 did. have you looked at #1's backlinks? where are they from? are they forum links, wordpress comments, articles?

    just find out what your competition did and 1up him. if he has 70k links, get 80k. clearly whatever he did worked for him so it should work for you as well correct?

    something to think about as well, if he has 70k shitty backlinks (prob from xrumer blast), you could build say 5k quality backlinks and outrank. say he drops link on PR5 pages and there are on average 50 outbound links per page. thats .1 PR (point 1) juice being passed to his site. combined, that's the equivalent of a PR 7000.

    now you know what to beat. you can now build 7k PR4 backlinks with 4 outbound links a piece and match his PR juice. or 1750 with 1 outbound, however you want to do it.

    just an example, but you need to know what your competition did before you can compete.
     
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    The guy has 70k+ backlinks, and from all of them it says

    "Theme by:...Website Name" in the footer, looks like he had paid some massive wordpress theme site to change all the footer links.
     
  20. Supernoob

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    Google is seeing 5k backlinks now,

    The guy 1 above me has 1.5k backlinks and his website is half flash and doesnt include the keyword in title or meta how is he above me :(