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Website name and content relationship from the perspective of SEO

Discussion in 'Domain Names & Parking' started by unnoobing, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. unnoobing

    unnoobing Newbie

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    Hi All, Saw some blogpost on website name and content relationship from the perspective of SEO. Hence my query is on related subject.

    1. Say I'm writing content on fuel economy technologies for bikes and cars. So I've chosen a name like

    a. economybikeandcar? which got all the keywords but is long.
    b. ecobikar? 'eco' from economy, 'bik' from bike and 'ar' from car. In this case the part of key word is there, again followed by part of next keyword and then again part of next keyword.

    So my question is, Both (a) and (b) hold similar value in terms of Google search keywords / index /spider or whatever technology is getting used to show them up on Google Search.

    Or any other example to understand this thing would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
     
  2. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    You cant put all your keywords in your domain. If you can target one bullseye keyword and get a matching domain that's a good start. You can target other keywords in your titles and use a targeted unique title per page you write
     
  3. unnoobing

    unnoobing Newbie

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    You mean that economybikeandcar is not allowed or you mean Google won't read or give value to continues 2 or 3 threaded keywords on a domain website name?
    I my case it atleast 3 words when joined together, then only they make sense like: economy + bike + car.
    This i can do or I'll do in any case.

    Also my question is, does ecobikar is equivalent to economybikeandcar or say economybikecar

    If i seach in Google search bar these term : economy fuel for car and bike. or bike and car on economy fuel etc.

    Will they get same weight in terms of return in a search query. As part of them carry chunks of keywords terms.
     
  4. seocare

    seocare Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You should try making your domain name and keyword same, choose which best suits you... and also generate seo friendly content for it.
     
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  5. GreyGhost

    GreyGhost Registered Member

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    Ask yourself who in the world would search for "economybikeandcar" (why "and" / its a common word, disregarded in search) and / or "ecobikar"?

    Nothing in this world is for sure, but I could almost guarantee you that no one would ever search for the first term and, if anyone would search for the second one that's because "eco" would stay for "ecology" and not "economy" :)

    Funny thing though, if you search for intitle:"fuel efficiency cars" inurl:"fuel efficiency cars" in order to find out how many websites compete for the exact search term, in this case "fuel efficiency cars" you get 3,390 results. If you use "economy" instead of "efficiency" in the query you get 16,200 results.

    Both numbers tell me it would be possible to rank for the said term. But, again, think about what the people might search for, not about some cute or clunky terms you'd stuff into your domain.

    Good luck.
     
  6. unnoobing

    unnoobing Newbie

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    Thanks, I'll do that. But my question is entirely different.

    I'm asking. Is ecobikar d-o-t c-o-m & economybikeandcar d-o-t c-o-m hold same value in term of domain name search key word query.
     
  7. JimmyWong

    JimmyWong Registered Member

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    Yes, an EMD is better than a non-emd.

    However, you can still rank without an EMD.
     
  8. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    No....If your targeted keyword is economybike then ecobike wont have the same gravity..google will allow you to use what you want (within obvious reason) but the most important thing is to do your keyword reseach and target one particular keyword . I presume that the keyword you have mentioned is just a suggestion but go to adwords and work out a term that gets traffic.
     
  9. unnoobing

    unnoobing Newbie

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    oky, let me try this way. what i mean is like i try in my excel sheet formulas (i guess all programming logic is same)

    "eco" in economy is like find "eco" in economy if found then "true" so
    "bik" in bike
    "ar" in car

    so true*true*true = true
    hence ecobikar = economybikecar

    Now this is just a vague example. the point is do Google crawl the website names the same way it does for text string search.
    Seniors must be getting it, what I'm upto here.

    Thanks to duffer, jimmy and grey for an attempt. (I'm starting to love this forum) :)
     
  10. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    Ok I get what you are thinking of but it's still no. Google serve up results to the user based on what they have asked for. Unless they enter ecobikar then there's no way that domain will be served up. You can off course rank non emd terms and if you are planning on building an authority site that will have hundreds of targeted articles then you can call it whatever you like and build up a brand over time.

    If it's an under 15 page niche site though try your best to get an emd of your focus keyword.here's an example I have 5 small niche travel sites all similar sites in similar competition niches. Three of them I have emd they all were easily put on the front page with good content and link building. Two others are close matches same work and effort and I can't lift them off page 3.
     
  11. unnoobing

    unnoobing Newbie

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    I'm not sure, what exactly you mean. But looks like I'm asking a question which is close to asking, decode Google's search algorithm for me types. Which obviously no one knows.

    But on the other hand, since i do not know how simple or complex my query is, i might get an satisfying answer. :)
     
  12. GreyGhost

    GreyGhost Registered Member

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    It's funny to see how you try to guess how Google thinks and how you'd like it to fit your wishful thinking :)

    My wishful thinking would go like this: "nikluvghost" = nicole kidman loves grey ghost

    Kidding aside - Domain name / URL used to carry much more weight than it does today. RELEVANCY of all the elements for your key term is the key for you to start building a successful site.

    So the issue might not lie in the economy bike / car URL keywords but in a question: WHAT you do with it? Do you build an fuel economy car? Does your website compares fuel economy bikes / cars and provides an end user with answers? Are you an eco nut who wants to spread a message and just want to say SUV suck ("sscuk" = suv sucks)?

    I am your user. What am I looking for so your website will satisfy my need?
     
  13. unnoobing

    unnoobing Newbie

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    Dear GG, I Agree on this wor by word.
    But then this is a universal truth. The Relevance content and quality of it. Even if I name my site Donkey and give a gold rated content.

    But since I'm new to this internet thing and blog sphere. I want to squeeze that extra drop which I can get via choosing an smart name. Which is not easily available for obvious reasons. Hence to get those related names one has to go creative.
    So to get these creative catchy obviously related names what if I jumble the key keywords or mesh them up or chop and mix them to create a short sweet and catchy name with the "parts" or "chunks" or "chopped" bits of key keywords from full key keywords.

    Examples:
    ecobikar chopped and mixed from economybikeandcar
    sucks from suvsucks
    nikilovgreost from Nicolelovegreyghost
    lote from loveanhate

    Will that be equivalent to the unchoped unmixed and full key keywords from the Google Search perspective?

    This will help me to take decision on taking a call to further tweak and chop my domain name to make it sound more interesting yet close to my search relevant keywords.
     
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  14. JimmyWong

    JimmyWong Registered Member

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    You're thinking into it too much.

    Just provide good, original relevant content.

    An EMD will help you, but it's not necessary.