Website making cost is $20,000-$30,000. How much we can Flip this site?

1. Our website-making cost is around $20,000 -$30,000 including site, Apps and content.
2. Website is highly SEO-friendly and about to launch.
3. Easily convert this site into more than $10 Million dollars business within 1 year with around $500k investment.

How much we can flip this site just after launch?

How much will be the price if we acquire 300-500 paid customers and $15,000 - $25,000 first month revenue?

Note: wanted to sell due to urgent need of $

Don't you think getting your sites worth checked on flippa or sedo would be a more direct approach than giving projections yourself or asking others for that?

My 2cents

First make and revenue and then think about selling. Without any revenue, it is worth zero.

If your site make $15k to $25k, then you can sell it for 20x that amount.

Sites gets flipped based on revenue and not based on liabilities and expenses.
And when someone starts to talk about millions and billions my only advice is run fast as you can. But they don't (sigh!)

buhari4u said:

If your site make $15k to $25k, then you can sell it for 20x that amount.

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No one will buy for that amount with just one month of revenue. Also profit is different than revenue.

usualy you take the average revenue of the last three month and you multiply by 25 to 35 times and you will find the worth price of your site, i understand from your post that your site is not making any money yet, i suggest to think about selling it after it start making money as with 0 revenue is nearly imposible to sell .

IM Dude said:

And when someone starts to talk about millions and billions my only advice is run fast as you can. But they don't (sigh!)

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No one would give a $1m for a business without doing their own due diligence.

lotsofmoney said:

No one will buy for that amount with just one month of revenue. Also profit is different than revenue.

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It's not like that. There are people who buy sites for that amount. But as you said, there are factors involved. The op is not clear about the income plan. If it's recurring, then definitely he can sell more than that amount.

Setox said:

No one would give a $1m for a business without doing their own due diligence.

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No, you are not getting the point here. The talk about millions and billions is that i am doin it so can you. You just have to pay me 10k. Thats what people fall for.

Xeervier said:

Don't you think getting your sites worth checked on flippa or sedo would be a more direct approach than giving projections yourself or asking others for that?

My 2cents

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They won't give the correct value for new sites.

Unless there is much more revenue than you mention (ie much more than one month.), id bet there's no way you sell it for the $20k-$30k you were charged for it. I personally wouldn't spend more than $500-$3k on a website framework w content. But you seem to say IF youu got clients. As in, there are no sales right now.

( An example, im currently creating content optimized websites for my personal portfolio for $800~ + 12 hours each. Many are doing this more efficiently than I am.)

Alot of variables here. But what is the profit? Is here inventory being sold with it? Or is it just a website you paid to have built then realized you got rugged?

You ask about selling it before launch, and then say “if” we acquire. Does this hypothetical infer that you actually do not have any clients yet? I'd have to know more about what all you paid for with it, but it sounds like someone hit a jugg on you. Tremendously finessed.

IM Dude said:

No, you are not getting the point here. The talk about millions and billions is that i am doin it so can you. You just have to pay me 10k. Thats what people fall for.

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People just don't buy anything blindly. They will do their analysis and buy. I am talking about the website worth which is in direct competition with http://www.yelp.com and http://www.whitepages.com.

skerobics said:

3. Easily convert this site into more than $10 Million dollars business within 1 year with around $500k investment.

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This is the problem.

Why don't you do it yourself if that is "easily convert"??

skerobics said:

They won't give the correct value for new sites.

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Whatever they give will be a point of reference at least in terms of evaluation not projection

skerobics said:

They won't give the correct value for new sites.

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They won't give you the “correct value?”

Sorry, could you explain what you mean by that? Correct as in they won’t value it because it’s new? Or correct as in valued by what’s there versus hypotheticals down the road? Or like, correct as in a price you dont agree with because it isn’t a value that allows a break-even sale, due to paying 10x more than it’s worth?

I am fearing you are expecting a high valuation due to what you perceive as a possible future for this idea. Versus a proper valuation based on what is there and what it is worth.

The selling price does not depend on website making cost, it depends on how much is the website currently making.

Guys cool down. I am talking about a web portal better than http://www.yelp.com not a small niche site or a blog.

Now you guys tell me what’s the worth of a web portal which is a

• Lead buying portal for US 50 States, 30,000+ locations, 800+ categories, 90,000+ keywords, 15M-20M Pages,
• Complete business plan, Competitive research analysis
• Proper keywords research for every category
• Website, IOS and Android Native Apps for User and Partner
• Separate Modules for 20 different users in the admin dashboard
• Google Adwords ad copies for all 800+ categories
• 50M US businesses data

Basically i am selling a pre-revenue or 1st-month revenue startup not a website. If anybody knows the similar size of the website being sold, plz do let me know.

skerobics said:

Guys cool down. I am talking about a web portal better than www.yelp.com not a small niche site or a blog.

Now you guys tell me what’s the worth of a web portal which is a

• Lead buying portal for US 50 States, 30,000+ locations, 800+ categories, 90,000+ keywords, 15M-20M Pages,
• Complete business plan, Competitive research analysis
• Proper keywords research for every category
• Website, IOS and Android Native Apps for User and Partner
• Separate Modules for 20 different users in the admin dashboard
• Google Adwords ad copies for all 800+ categories
• 50M US businesses data

If anybody knows the similar size of the website being sold, plz do let me know.

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At the moment trying to sell that as a business has no value as you are not using it as a business until you have paying customers. The plan, research etc is unproven so, your income multiplier is 0.

That means you can just sell it for the value of the tech now and that value will not be set by you, only what someone is prepared to pay.

Far better to prove your business plan works, generate income then the value = proven tech + (income x income multiplier)

skerobics said:

Guys cool down. I am talking about a web portal better than www.yelp.com not a small niche site or a blog.

Now you guys tell me what’s the worth of a web portal which is a

• Lead buying portal for US 50 States, 30,000+ locations, 800+ categories, 90,000+ keywords, 15M-20M Pages,
• Complete business plan, Competitive research analysis
• Proper keywords research for every category
• Website, IOS and Android Native Apps for User and Partner
• Separate Modules for 20 different users in the admin dashboard
• Google Adwords ad copies for all 800+ categories
• 50M US businesses data

Basically i am selling a pre-revenue or 1st-month revenue startup not a website. If anybody knows the similar size of the website being sold, plz do let me know.

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I'm sorry bro.. I promise we aren't trying to rain on your parade. I think most of us understand what you're saying. At some point, you need to look at the common denominator between everyone's advice here, along with all of the valuations from the established companies that have built out million-dollar infrastructure based on their accurately valuing websites. We are just giving you realistic valuations. I know it isn't fun being brought back down to earth, but I'm afraid you've set some very unrealistic expectations on the amount of due diligence a buyer will be doing with a sal at this scale.

Do yo see trying to take on Yelp as an upside rather than a downside? Especially considering Yelp has a grip on SERPs. it's generally one of the first result behind GMBs. If this idea is 'better,' why are you selling it "pre-revenue?" Most of these statistics you've listed just sound like something anyone with scraping tools or 'AI Power' WP plugin could achieve for under $4k. This is a lot of data you're offering, but how does it differ from what someone can get by scraping Yelp? If you are trying to find serious buyers, playing 'devil's advocate,' no one is going to give you a ridiculous $25k-$2m for this. And telling a buyer that you know this platform is "better than Yelp" just raises more red flags, or you likely wouldn't be giving up on it before you even started, ie pre-rev.

Bro I fear you have likely spent much more scraping those 15m-20m pages than you can get selling this scraped data. Honestly, I'd pay no more for this than for one of those pre-built movie streaming sites. They're essentially the same thing. An idea with a built-out scraped framework. Actually, that gives me a decent idea. You could likely parse out all of this data you have scraped and recover some losses by selling the data. For example, the 50m US business data has some value if it can be sorted.

Now there is one more metric you haven't given us that could offer you some sort of help here with this valuation. What is your site's monthly UV? Surely you have to be making pretty good ad revenue you haven't included here since you have 15m-20m pages that are ranking for 90,000 keywords?