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Webmaster Tools says I am ranking for my keywords but I can't find my site...Sandboxed?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by drdankmendez, Dec 16, 2009.

  1. drdankmendez

    drdankmendez Junior Member

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    So I have 20 small niche sites ranging from 4 months in age to 3 week. About 5 days ago all of my sites dropped tremendously in ranking and havn't shown any sign of coming back up.

    They have not been de-indexed as I can still find em using "site:", but they are quite far down, anywhere from 500-2000 for their keywords.

    The odd part is when I check them in G's webmaster tools it says I am ranking quite well for my keywords.

    I am not sure why all the sites would have went at once regardless if its a dance or the sandbox.

    Anyone else have similar experiences?

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    DrDankMendez
     
  2. drdankmendez

    drdankmendez Junior Member

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    So no one else has had a mass sandbox happen to their sites?

    Anyone else use a single webmaster account for all their sites or should I be using separate accounts for each site?

    Thanks,
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  3. eestisiin

    eestisiin Regular Member

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    im pretty sure that using google tools, like analytics and webmaster tools can be dangerous. Because like you know, google considers CTR for ranking, but they dont have a good idea on bounce rate, but if you use analytics they know,hence you will not rank so good anymore...

    Anyways, I used webmaster tools, but they are kinda useless, all rankings that WM tool shows are wrong and I dont like google seeing my 20 or more sites under one user...
     
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  4. nicktoast

    nicktoast Newbie

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    For experience, I've found Google Webmaster doesn't always report that accurate of information.
     
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    sand boxed, happens, just keep on doing what you were doing, keep running the linking, and blogging, it will come back.

    I think google sandboxes sites to see how or what reaction that web site owners does, if they do nothing then bang, they do nothing, if you keep on doing your seo stuff, then bang, you start moving up again. Again it's just an observation, I have yet to have any real proof proof of this.
     
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  6. darkJack

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    I also have 30 or so sites ranging 5 months to 1 week old and even my older sites get danced around.

    GWT tells you what people searched for and how your site ranked overall, it's not real-time, nor is it very accurate for different searchers, including yourself. It's also about a week old data, not updated as often as you'd think. Try Googling your rankings through a different IP or anonymous proxy service like hidemyassdotcom. Sometimes the results are quite different, sometimes not. Either way you'll come back fine if you just keep doing what you were doing.
     
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  7. darkJack

    darkJack Newbie

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    Also, if GWT gave real-time data you could sit there changing one thing at a time to see how it effects your rankings and be able to pick apart their algorithm piece by piece.
     
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    drdankmendez Junior Member

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    I understand that GWT are not in real time however it is showing it's update date as after my sites dropped, anyhow what GWT says is not really my concern.

    My question, I guess, was more towards the idea of G sandboxing sites in mass as all the sites went at the same time...
     
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    I have the same problem, GWT says #1 but for weeks now my site isn't near first pages, I hope is just sandboxed.
     
  10. darkJack

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    Ahh. Seems odd they would do it all at the same time. Are they are linked together, or linking out to somewhere that has been put on the naughty list? I hear some 3-way linking is getting knocked down or other shady linking schemes.
     
  11. drdankmendez

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    They are all in the same GWT, Analytics, and using the same Adsense account.

    They have all been promoted slightly different using no blackhat techniques.

    They are still are not moving back up in the rankings and GWT keeps updating and actually is saying my rank if getting better, and for more keywords.

    I added another, already established and well aged site to the GWT and Analytics accounts and so far nothing has come of it.

    Perhaps I am one of those "lucky" people who got a random manual review of my accounts and they didn't like my MFA sites...

    It's kinda annoying to say the least, but fortunately I can still get a little bit of traffic from yahoo and bing.
     
  12. billygood

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    see, the problem is MFA sites. you need to taylor your site to look like a regular site and not a MFA site.

    try this as a helpful hint.

    after you made your template for an MFA, surf the top 20 site's, do a quick print screen of each, then place them all on your screen, I find that I can nab the correct color idea's to match. that's step 1

    after that I wait about 2 or 3 weeks, then create a blog. nothing fancy, and I set up about 20 articles to be posted in 3 months, about 1 posting a week with an extra on Sunday, this helps create the benefit of extra text and keep google off my back.

    at the end of the 3rd month is the money review, if the cash flow of the site is good, then take some of the cashflow and buy another 10 or 20 articles related to the MFA, and have it set up on the blog for another 3 months.
     
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