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web2.0 sites banned by google -> webeden.net and yolasite.com (one year ago)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by itwarrior, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. itwarrior

    itwarrior Junior Member

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    Today I noticed that webeden.net has been banned by Google. site:webeden.net = no result. Yolasite.com was banned about a year ago.
    So it seems that the spamming of web2.0 sites is a bit dangerous. It can hurt the whole domain.
     
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  2. ritesh

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    Yolasite is very fine around 7 million pages indexed.
    Webeden has been banned for good.
     
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    People are putting way too much trust in Web 2.0's.. Them being banned/no-longer passing juice would destroy tons of sites.. Not to mention no one owns them, so the website itself could change without your objection to it. I still don't get why people are building these by the hundreds.. I saw someone selling 10,000 web 2.0's on Warrior Forum the other day, lol! Seriously who would send 10K web 2.0's to their money site at once. Anyways, back on topic, just my thoughts but I'm not really a fan of making anymore than 20-40 of them.
     
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    webeden.co.uk is fine!
     
  5. itwarrior

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    Well indexed but dropped in the Google serp. You can't rank with yolasite blogs. Just search for any kind of yolasite subdomain and you get no results.
     
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    g1pkn Newbie

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    Thanks for the info !
     
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    Yola seems fine. And just building Web 2.0 properties isn't giving as much result as it used to earlier. However, that doesn't mean the strategy doesn't work. These are still great for Tier II links and to keep dripping a few nice article based links on aged blogs. Works for me!
     
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    I didn't know that. Thanks for the info mate!
     
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  9. Scritty

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    Those aren't WEB2.0 as you or I would know them. They are lonely links sat on empty pages of sites that couple only themselves be called "WEB2.0" by the every losest of definitions.

    The idea that all your tier one should be WEB2 is not a good one. I don't know why so many people insist on it. It makes no sense at all.
    However, the idea that everyone should go out and create their own self hosted link farms is also a long way from realistic. Essp now SEO hosting has been proved to be worse than useless in this regard, you need a wide natural spread of "C" and "B" class IP's at the very least, that's dozens of hosting accounts, dozens of domain names... and STILL no guarantee that you won't get caught out.

    An intermediate idea would be to to mix up web2, good other platforms (WIKI, article, PR, video etc) with hi PR and good traffic and maybe a couple of self hosted (where you put real effort into them).

    But just saying "How many WEB2's in my first tier is a dumb "2009" sort of question. Google knows exactly what a WEB2 site is Tim O'Reilly's annual WEB2 conference is explicit in pointing out which sites are web 2 and which are not, and all the big boys go (Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, IBM, Adobe, Intel, Dell)
    Hell Google even send reps to SPEAK at the summit

    http://www.web2summit.com/web2011/public/content/sponsors

    So imagine if they look at your sites first tier links and see EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS A RECOGNISED WEB2 SITE

    Do you think they will say "Yeah that looks natural"?

    I frikking well doubt it.

    Mix it up, stop being so hung up on WEB2.0 for first tier, you are creating your own simple to spot footprint for Google to "slap you stupid" with.
    Same as people who use any one platform for most of their links.
    "Should I use blogs for tier one"? Is a question that comes up on this forum over and over again.

    THERE IS NO "YES" or "NO" answer to this.

    It's "Would blogs be the sort of place people might naturally discuss your site on"?
    If the answer is "yes" then;

    How many people might that be?
    How big is your site? How old is it?
    How many visitors (unique) per day do you get?
    What is your bounce rate?

    Right - so the likelyhood is some figure between 5 and 500 blog links over a period of a few days/weeks is absolutely fine.
    500,000 of then in a day is almost certainly NOT fine - unless your site is wikipedia in size, age and visitor metrics.

    Likewise forum profiles... some = fine / gazzilions = likely NOT fine

    A good first tier will have lots of platforms, lots of link types, good content around many of them and would be added to periodically.

    (Again folks I'm talking about a certain type of site here - one with aspirations to be at least moderate in size, last a long time, stay in SERP's for years, I know the microsite guys can get away with breaking many of these rules, so this is not info for them)


    Scritty
     
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  10. ChatAnd.net

    ChatAnd.net BANNED BANNED

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    Google is sucking balls.
     
  11. itwarrior

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    Yola.com is fine but not their free blog platform yolasite.com. It's been slapped since a year back.
     
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    Depending on the web 2.0 sites is not safe a anymore. Google is really playing hard.
     
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  13. Scritty

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    Exactly,

    Variation in everything - not just "anchor text". vary your content, your platforms..everything.

    "Burst" linking "Blast" linking..while it works for some very specific site types, for many it's the kiss of death for many.

    "30,000 WIKI blast" ought to be renamed "How frickking quick to you want to get slapped out of serps"
    "10,000 bookmarks on fiverr" might be nicknamed "Do you ever want to see your site on Google again?"
    Then perhaps the biggest idiocy.
    "800 Google +1's for $20" has a new name "Let's pi$$ directly on Google's face to see if he reacts"

    I look at major news stories. CNN's main page for the hurricane in New York has less than 400 Google +1's
    That page has been getting around 40 MILLION visitors a day.
    And it's averaging about 60 +1's a day - 400 so far in total
    And you reckon Google is going to believe your micro site selling a garden patio heater offer as an Amazon affiliate has managed to somehow attract double that amount overnight?
    Get off the pot and go and have a chat with "Ronnie Real"

    Thinking now, I think effective link promotion requires a PC on 24/7 these days - preferably a server or VPS, something that runs and runs, creating the appropriate volume of links to the right number of URL's within your website. Power, control, diversity

    Glengarry Glenross "A.B.L...Always Be Linking"

    Linking requires control for best effect, the more control the better the more variation the better.

    Scritty
     
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