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Web 2.0s with Spun Content, its OKAY?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by The SEO, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. The SEO

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    After Penguin update my websites are hit badly, now every one here talks about Web 2.0 properties to minimize the effect of penguin from your website. My question is, if I make Web 2.0 Properties with highly spun content then its good for my website to rank in Google again? if not not then please tell me its reasons as well as better ways.......and please not include this point that make web 2.0 with unique content!!! instead of this point please let me know other easy ways.

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    I haven't had any problems with spun content
     
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    spun content is not the problem with penguin...its other factors still to be determined...
     
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  4. The SEO

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    What are these factors?
     
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    My message is too short... but the quotes were enough...
     
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  6. qu1ck

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    major thing seems to be you just need a lot more variance in the anchor text, (do not just use the same keyword) more variance in where links come from, etc.
     
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    If the uniqueness is high enough (60+%) then its fine for me
     
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    i wouldnt use spun content on my money site. spun content goes to t2 for me
     
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    It depends on how spun is the spun content AND how many times you use it. Could you give an estimate of how deep is the spinning and how many times it is used?
     
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  10. scorpion896

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    I honestly cant say if spun content is bad on your web 2.0s or not but i can tell you from my personal experience that when i make my web 2.0s manually with unique content written by me they are much more effective than when i use magic submitter to spin content and post them for me. No idea how or why but I always get better results when I use non-spun content.
     
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  11. The SEO

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    If spun content uniqueness is 75% but unreadable then it is good for link building?
     
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    Spun content still works, but it depends on the spin of course. What you should be thinking of is the natural look. Social signals wouldn't hurt. However as some have mentioned - anchor texts, link divercity, link velocity are factors that help. On site is more strictly controled but still does a great job if you get it right (not overdoing it).
     
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  13. The SEO

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    If spun content is unreadable then we can use him just for link building?
     
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    You have to check the article uniqueness and copyright before posting to web 2.0.I am using TBS for different web 2.0's and i have no problem using in that way.
     
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    It's certainly not that simple
     
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  16. The SEO

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    When you use one article on a word-level spin and use this for over 20-50 articles, web2.0 and so on, then its not good after the penguin update.

    The best for mass submissions, you need articles which build on paragraph mixes incl. word-level spin. So every article you post is unique from each other. And it is human readable at all, but make in the most cases no sense :)

    And ofcourse you should not using over optimized articles with your keyword.

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  18. qu1ck

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    Well, if google's bot has become as intelligent as a human and can tell the difference between spun and non-spun content, I guess it's not that simple. Otherwise, at the moment, anchor text seems to be the biggest thing the new algorithm is looking for. Basically it seems to just discredit links if they're 100% anchored as a high competition keyword. Some have regained ranking just by throwing in tons of "click here" and direct url links.
     
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    I don't think that's what he means. There are plenty of other factors in a Web 2.0 that need to be varied:
    - Does it have images? Is it unique to this link-wheel for each property?
    - What about video? Same as above on uniqueness.
    - Are all pages on the Web 2.0 injected with a link - that's not overly natural
    - How many different properties do you use? 10 different properties used countless times isn't natural
    - Are you linking to Authority sites as well as your site and your other web 2.0s?

    There is so much more than just spinning. While making my own bot I realised this, making a totally unique article is easy once you know how, making everything random and look natural while using a bot is much more intense.
     
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