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We the people.......should do something about those fruitcakes who chargeback!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by BananaTree23, Dec 18, 2014.

  1. BananaTree23

    BananaTree23 Newbie

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    I was wondering if there are any groups or forums that like to make the lives of those who charge back a living hell....if not then someone should....Just saying...
     
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    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Even if such a group existed, I can't imagine anyone revealing the group name to anyone on a public forum. Look, I know chargebacks can be frustrating, but making the chargebacker's life a "living hell", which sounds like you're going to harass or defame them, isn't going to help much. While I don't condone those activities, there are simply too many people who do chargebacks (both for legitimate and fraudulent purposes) to keep up with all of them.
     
  3. rtraphic

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    Just go smart man. Take a proof of everything and record EVERY TRANSACTION and SALE. If you do the things the right way, and have proof of it, paypal will help you.

    Source: experience
     
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    yea, that would be tremendous work, maybe it cannot be done especially w/o having access to such data, but maybe there would be a market for it

    imagine if you could compile a huge database of habitual fraudsters with backing it up and convince big companies like paypal, clickbank etc to buy this ever-expanding database, so they can do the right thing and undo these fraudulent chargebacks and ban the fraudster's asses/froze their paypal, their sellers would be more happy and they would be more happy too, if not for their sellers, but because their cut what they don't get, if there's a chargeback

    of course it would be only doable when a fraudster uses his/her own identity and funds and not a stolen CC/hacked paypal etc., but even this would be a pretty big number
     
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    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    That would certainly be interesting if there were a company with a non-public database that merchants could update with suspected frauds (the company could then send/sell the information to other companies such as Paypal or Clickbank)! One of the issues that I can see is that if the database were made public, someone could sue for defamation if they are erroneously suspected (people can become litigious fairly quickly). There's also the issue that you mentioned about the fraudsters using fake identities or hacked Paypals (which could ruin the reputation of an innocent person).
     
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    When ever you got chargeback issue, try to contact paypal on phone, Chances will better of wining.
     
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    Have you tried emailing the customer and asking what's up? Chargebacks aren't always fraudulent - it could be somebody seeing a charge on their credit card statement they don't recognize.