We are all sociopaths or borderline sociopaths

DamnedFreak

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Feb 12, 2010
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I've been fighting blog and forum spam for a long time. This year has been the worst year by far and a few months ago I found out why.

The forum spammers have organized a community on a backlinks forum where they openly sell link dropping software, discuss how to use it, and sell update packet files that include new lists of forums to exploit.

As a member of the search optimization community I have known about link spamming for years. I have always opposed it (particularly the invasive, parasitical techniques that have plagued forums and blogs).

These people have a sense of entitlement and I have no doubt that many if not all of them are sociopaths or borderline sociopaths. They see nothing wrong in what they are doing.

They make broad use of proxy services, some of which reputedly rely on illegal botnets (compromised computers) to relay their clients' activities.

Although I am not a member of the spammers' forum, I have lurked around it enough to get a sense of just how large a community they are becoming. Their incentive, as many of you have noted, is financial. Some of these people sell their linking services to unsuspecting clients.

The spammers do complain that their link profiles often don't last long, but they see that only as an incentive to go out and get more.

I have found that many of them are hammering blogs as much as forums. All they do is buy a packet of sites to submit to, feed it to their software, and they go on about their lives.

These guys are still naive in some ways. Their own forum community has been spammed. They also ran a backlink contest over the summer, requiring links to their forum. Eventually they'll get a clue and start closing off the forum but for now I am pretty sure they are trying to build up a sizable industry.

There are two levels of bottom feeders in the group: those who write/sell the software and those who use the software to provide "link building service" to people who don't want to or cannot afford to pay for professional link development.

I keep having to turn off registrations in my forums so I have time to deal with other issues. I like what your group is doing here but I suspect that your task is about to become much more difficult in the coming months.

You will need to ramp up your own automation in order to keep pace with them.
Source: hxxp://www.stopforumspam. c0m/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1796
 
Lol, the douchebag is just jealous because he doesn't know SEO techniques.

"Their incentive, as many of you have noted, is financial."

What is everyone's incentive in this world? Dumbass...
 
I strongly object to the quoted OP calling the good people who create xrumer bottom feeders. And saying that about the rest of us, too. I think we are much smarter than the average bottom feeder, like the halibut I had for dinner yesterday. I have tried to teach halibut to create forum profiles automatically using xrumer, but in the end I just have to eat them. We are much higher on the food chain.
 
There are two levels of bottom feeders in the group: those who write/sell the software and those who use the software to provide "link building service" to people who don't want to or cannot afford to pay for professional link development.

Bottom feeders? Well, now I'm insulted. Besides my own blogs get hammered as well but do I whine like a little bitch? That's why they created a delete key. If this is the biggest problem in his life then he is living the good life.
 
What an idiot, when my first forum got spammed and I also had to close down registrations, thats when I ventured into BH myself ;). I'm actually glad it got spammed.
 
reminds me of this great quote :)

There is nothing very
odd about lambs
disliking birds of prey,
but this is no reason for
holding it against large
birds of prey that they
carry off lambs. And
when the lambs whisper
among themselves,
"These birds of prey
are evil, and does this
not give us a right to
say that whatever is the
opposite of a bird of
prey must be good?"
there is nothing intrinsically
wrong with such
an argument though.
the birds of prey will
look somewhat quizzically
and say, "We have
nothing against these
good lambs; in fact, we
love them; nothing
tastes better than a
tender lamb."
FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE,
1844-1900
 
"professional link developer" That's a rather nice sounding job title don't you think?

Apparently they charge a lot too.....ummm
 
I strongly object to the quoted OP calling the good people who create xrumer bottom feeders. And saying that about the rest of us, too. I think we are much smarter than the average bottom feeder, like the halibut I had for dinner yesterday. I have tried to teach halibut to create forum profiles automatically using xrumer, but in the end I just have to eat them. We are much higher on the food chain.

My personal favorite bottom feeder is the catfish. And they have more in common with black hatters than you think- have you ever tried to reel one in got stuck with one of those whiskers? Man, that hurts! Wish I knew which forum(s) this guy runs.
 
IMHO spamming is only a method to get to end result
do it carefully and you will get what you want
 
You'll never stop the haters. Let them say whatever they want, it's their right after all...

At the end of the day they'll have to run to their small cubicle each and every day, cursing and swearing while me, the sociopath, the borderline sociopath have time to read what they care for on this forum from their little laptop in tropical parts of the world while their bots earn a living... Let em all talk, folks...
 
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I googled definition of a sociopath and got a website stating this

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love

Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
 
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I googled definition of a sociopath and got a website stating this

Glibness and Superficial Charm - GUILTY
Manipulative and Conning - not guilty
Grandiose Sense of Self - not guilty
Pathological Lying - GUILTY
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt - GUILTY
Shallow Emotions - not guilty
Incapacity for Love - not guilty
Need for Stimulation - not guilty
Callousness/Lack of Empathy - not guilty
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature - not guilty
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency - not guilty
Irresponsibility/Unreliability - GUILTY- why should i care for their blog. lol
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity - - not guilty
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle - not guilty
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility - GUILTY

that's 5 out of 15 =
> i'm 33.33% Internet Marketer Sociopath :) lol .. we've got a new term for psychologysts / psychiathrics
 
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Hey if you go to that website stopforumspam you cn find some "top spammer usernames" ... a sociopath might search those usernames for high pr forums that get indexed...you should definatly not do this...
 
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