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Way to Avoid Chargebacks in PP?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by AffGuy08, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. AffGuy08

    AffGuy08 BANNED BANNED

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    Hi everyone!

    If you realise the current change in Paypal on sending money, there is this "Personal" type - gift, payment owed, living expenses and others.

    I believe you can avoid getting chargebacks from scamming buyers by telling them to send you $ using personal type?

    Share your thoughts on this. TQ!
     
  2. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Hi Affguy,

    I have seen that 'Personal' option too but as chargeback occurs from credit card company, i don't think paypal can do anything for it (if it's information product).

    Thanks.
     
  3. AffGuy08

    AffGuy08 BANNED BANNED

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    Hmm true, how about we sending them invoices?
     
  4. bhdude688

    bhdude688 Power Member

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    Not sure you can do anything
     
  5. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Nab101,

    I think you are new to paypal, if any problem occurs to any of your paypal account (fake or real) paypal will limit both until you solve the problem.
     
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    how about using Request Money feature?
     
  7. enrikole

    enrikole BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    here is what I thought of doing another day.

    Basically have one fake paypal that you receive payments with and then one real one or alternatively something like egold etc.

    So you receive the money into your fake account.
    Then go to GAF and create 2 accounts.
    Account A with your fake paypal account. And account B with your real one or even egold etc.

    Now with your account A "pay" account B for some project.

    And now withdraw the money from your account B to your real paypal or even with other payment processors.

    And paypal will see no connection between your fake and real account. And there should be no limitations on your real account because you will never have any chargebacks.

    I quess you could always buy a whole load of verified paypals , and then receive money with them. Then transfer it to getafreelance type of site. And from there to your real account. And if someone requests a chargeback you would not give it. Just ditch the account and never use it again. You can get them for like $15 from here on BHW. And because you will not have any funds in your account since you moved it, you could keep it.


    My only problem with this really is that its probably illegal and is viewed as "money laundering"

    What do you guys think about this system?
     
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  8. abhi1

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    Or how about just using e-junkiez.com?
     
  9. webmentors

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    Hi i have done with this paypal and gaf for one year or so.But i used gaf debit card and moneybookers.I had no problems using it.Also onething i want to mention here is dont do things fastly.If u make account today and transfer money from paypal to gaf then u are going to get charge back from paypal.So wht i will advice u all that take some time before doing this.Then make a project on gaf of high amount and transfer money.THis way everything will be fine.No need to get 2 paypal accounts.
     
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  10. blackhatjamie

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    Sending as a donation also helps. I use to get scammed allot by people placing in chargebacks, so tried out the donation trick for a little while and it worked.
     
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  11. webmentors

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    Yes it also works and also try paypal invoices.U will have very less chances of getting chargeback.
     
  12. antsaoo

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    I heard MB is pretty strict about this kind of stuff , but if you can keep it without being caught would solve fuckloads of problems :) also you could make some projects which last long with partial payments like article writing and send 500$ week rather 5k at once , if that would be from one account, i think you can agree it would look bit suspicious "k heres 5k upfront for some articles lol"
     
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  13. webmentors

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    yes things has to be done in parts and u need randomize things as much u can
     
  14. AffGuy08

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    enrikole - as usual, very good reply and idea there! Thanks buddy!

    abhi1 - never tried ejunkie fully, how can it solve this problem? Mind explaining?

    webmentors - thanks, a debit card will be much better :)

    blackhatjamie - I tried donation way before for small amounts, will the same thing work with large amounts?

    antsaoo - it'll be better and look more natural if there are a few projects involved :)
     
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  15. abhi1

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    i myself got an account with them 3 days back and yet to try...if your products have a no-refund policy, you shud b pretty much safe using e-junkie...

    give it a try...use "EASYE-JUNKIE" coupon n u'll get a free 67 days full access trail :p
     
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