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Watering Down EPC (Junk Traffic) - Is using a seperate subID ok?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by fivealive, Sep 28, 2009.

  1. fivealive

    fivealive Guest

    I have a really simple question but it is worrying me. I need to water down my EPC and conversion rate, I know how to do this but I don't want the junk traffic to mess with my reporting and subIDs etc.

    Should I send the junk traffic to a seperate subID or not send it to one at all? My fear here is that the CPA network will not fall for the "watered down" EPC because when they see my subIDs that track different methods of promotion the EPC will be a lot higher.

    Please help, I don't want to mess up my stats but I don't want to get dropped from the network either!
     
  2. KrasS

    KrasS BANNED BANNED

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    hi

    don`t send the junk traffic to a subID. your conjecture is right, if you send traffic to a subID the cpa network will still question your high conversation rate on the other ID.
     
  3. fivealive

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    Thanks for the reply! Now by your logic then does that mean I should not be sending my offers to subIDs either? My situation is that I'm posting on a classifieds ads site in 10 different cities, and I want to track what each city is doing with conversions and clicks.

    So there are 10 subIDs with high conversion and EPC, will the network even bother looking at that or is that flying under the radar?
     
  4. KrasS

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    you can have a different subID for every city , but you also need to send fake traffic to every of the subIDs. in your situation i would just create one ID for all cities because so your effort for sending junk traffic whould be less.
     
  5. fivealive

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    Thanks again for the quick reply. I really didn't want to hear what you said there but it's just the way of the business we're in I guess. Safety comes before good statistics. I wanted to be able to track each city individually but looks like I might have to let go of that idea eh?
     
  6. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Junior Member

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    Definitely don't have your BH traffic and Junk traffic on different SubID's or one subID will have huge conversions and the other none.

    You could track each city with Prosper202, or you could track each city with a SubID, and then rotate the junk traffic to go to all of the subid's (which a random/sequential url script).
     
  7. fivealive

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    Thanks guys - I think you have saved me from getting burnt big time here. I would have been banned in about a week doing it the way I was - you guys are stars.
     
  8. SHOwnsYou

    SHOwnsYou Registered Member

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    Something else to think about doing:

    For each city you're posting in, use a different link to your site. From there, track what city the click came from. Generate a new random id, put it in your database along with the original city, and then send that lead to the cpa companies with the randomly generated number.

    You can compare these to get the conversion numbers.

    Additionally, you can still send junk traffic to a url on your site that will generate a random id and use it as a subid and just not put it in your database.
     
  9. fivealive

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    Right, so I would create a random id and add it to the database and the database knows which random ids are linked to which city - I can probably work that out with a bit of time.

    What I don't get is how would I do the report from the network's side? Would I just have to create a report by manually selecting each subID while reading out from my database? I'm thinking of doing this with PHP/MySQL maybe as well.
     
  10. sm00th

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    hell no, dont use subID at all at this point, they look at it and you're done...
     
  11. SHOwnsYou

    SHOwnsYou Registered Member

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    Yes. You could code something that compares the CSV file you get from your cpa network to your database and save yourself a lot of time.
     
  12. fivealive

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    Thanks, don't think I'm there yet with the technical skill to do this properly but I appreciate the advice.
     
  13. SHOwnsYou

    SHOwnsYou Registered Member

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    If you want to experiment, this should throw you in the right direction...

    Import the CSV into mysql (you can do this from phpmyadmin or can write soemthing in php to import it).

    Then, make a new page on your server that runs a join query looking for subids from completed offers and compares them to the original random subids you created.
     
  14. fivealive

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    Thanks, been about 2 years since I looked at MySQL. The campaign I was doing is only a $10/day one so it's probably not worth all the effort to code something like this and would be best spent making more campaigns. Once I've got a few more dollars a day coming in I'll be sure to have another look at coding something.