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(WARNING) Protect Your Accounts

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Pofecker, May 22, 2009.

  1. Pofecker

    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    Lately there has been a lot of issues with being a member here and owning CPA accounts. Somehow the networks are finding out who we are and either banning our accounts or questioning our leads. Not all of us run blackhat, but this doesn't seem to matter.

    I'd suggest taking a close look at the information you signed up with and what you have got floating around the net.

    I'm friendly with a few AM's out there and they said there are several ways of finding out who's a member with their network.

    The biggest here on the forum is the contact info you have within your profile. They are taking the AIM/YAHOO/ICQ/MSN contact info and running it against their network database.

    Posting screen shots of your accounts or checks. Even the amount of the check can lead to you.

    Posting a thread here about a certain network, then answering a PM/IM about it. Some of these guys are posing as noobs and asking enough questions to get your info. Know who you are talking to before giving out too much info.

    Publishing your email address within a thread (if its the same as your network log on).

    Having other people log into your account. Networks can see every single log on and can cross check it with every other account on the network. Get your account linked with someone else and you could be banned. Think of it like EPN.

    Last but not least, these networks talk to each other. Have a serious enough problem with one, they will broadcast your info to others.


    Keep ALL info that is online from leaking over to the networks if you at all concerned about your marketing activities.
     
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  2. hawke

    hawke Power Member

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    These tips should be Common Sense for ALL internet activity. Unfortunately some lack that sense ;)
     
  3. Pofecker

    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    We have had some huge issues lately and it seems to be getting worse. If anyone else has anything to add, feel free.
     
  4. enrikole

    enrikole BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    another thing that will help you a lot is : have solid relationships with your AM's. if they are your friends, you will not be banned so easily.

    An advertiser was upset with my traffic once and AM said he will have to ban me , so that advertiser would be happy and it looks legit. Then 10 minutes later he emailed me , apply again and i will approve you :) So relationships work..
     
  5. wiredmom

    wiredmom Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Is it possible they grabbed a copy of the database that was leaked awhile back? And then just scraped user/members info from there?
    That would make it super easy to grab the emails used on accounts here to compare to their own database.
     
  6. heiny

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    Dont fill out your accounts, don't post screenshots of your accounts nor your wire transfers and what not. Just stay anonymous. That's why I won't even post how much my record earning has been here and there.

    I can however justify for most of my leads and traffic. I believe in karma, so if I cheat someone I know I'll get cheated back sooner or later.

    Also ..some CPA networks even sit in here and participate in discussions. There's nothing WRONG with being a member of BHW. It is just once you open your mouth on how you get your traffic it may become an issue for you to justify for your AM/networks.
     
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    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    I have a feeling they are targeting individuals that peak their interest and not going after the community as a whole.
     
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    Pofecker Senior Member Premium Member

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    Everyone is saying this is common sense and your right, but there is a lot that is happening behind the scenes right now that you aren't seeing. People are getting fucking out of thousands of $$ and have no idea how the networks found them here.

    Just be careful and protect your investments.
     
  9. havokb8

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    Ya this shit sucks its a shame they have to somehow make the correlation between a forum and whatever you are running on their network its ridiculous
     
  10. hawke

    hawke Power Member

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    People should start , and keep a new Identity on each forum/site/network they use.

    Make a spread sheet if you have to , of the different account info's , and NEVER post Identifying info on the net.
     
  11. heiny

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    They don't have access to IP info do they? lol

    Fingers crossed for everyone whos in here. I hope we don't lose members through this.

    I dont understand the CPA networks too tough..Unless you're SCAMMING them directly then most people shouldn't really be worried. That you fake or spoof referrer is only because the traffic that's converting for you on that offer isn't acceptable - dont see why networks should be so uptight.
     
  12. RamChaturvedi

    RamChaturvedi Supreme Member

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    As it it rightly said that "Common sense is not so common"....thats why Pofecker is telling us as a remainder...Every body is not that much advanced and expert...there are many newbie's and learners in this great site...So this info will surely help them to some extent!!!!
     
  13. positivenote

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    Yeah..man

    I am one of those folks that runs a whitehat business..I only come here because of the valuable services they provide such as video creation,article service,web 2,o property creation, and etc..but even thats not good enough..

    I dont want them to get the wrong idea about me..can you please take away all the contact info from my account.....
     
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    positivenote Regular Member

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    Never mind guys..got it figured out..thanks for the warning pofeck.
     
  15. hawke

    hawke Power Member

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    They're uptight, because shit rolls down hill. You send a bunch of shit leads to the network, and none convert, the advertiser isn't going to pay the network, hence you won't get paid.

    Networks want to stop it BEFORE the leads are sent, so they look to the advertisers like they are doing something about it so they keep the advertisers in their network.

    Fraud and CPA don't mix.

    And that's their biggest concern.
     
  16. noob411

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    Hey question would that be like the one pm i received yesterday. I did not respond and reported it quickly? I am fortunate enough that I am here w/mods that give us good warnings...
    edit: there is also a big difference between fraud and bh methods, they should realize that.
     
  17. enrikole

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    cant really tell.. What did they say in the PM?
     
  18. KillerBee

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    One of the problems is that a lot of methods are discussed here, very openly. If we take a look at the threads, and analyze what we say, we basically give ourselves away with the how to threads, these cock blockers see ALL the methods we use and they come up with a solution to our methods.

    You can't prevent or eliminate a problem if you don't that there is one, second, you can't create a solution to the problem if you don't know how it all works!
    They come here, read, analyze, and solve their problem.

    I feel that BHW should close off the entire forum from public view, main page would have
    the logo and a login box only.
    This may sound a bit too much, but close registration to the forum for a few months.
    Require ISP issued email to sign up along with a phone to verify who is signing up.
    Charge members a small fee to join and use the money from that, to run verifications.

    Like I said, it may sound like a bit too much, but rather that then let these assholes ban us and close our accounts. In the long run, it would pay off.
     
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  19. swinter84

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    Are you one of my aff managers?
     
  20. aмillionaírе

    aмillionaírе Power Member

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    That's not the case anymore. I don't know where some of these networks get their fisherman AM's from. Any decent network knows they can't assume anything beyond fact. Instead of spying on their affiliates they should develop confidence in their network. And not all advertisers are angels either.
     
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