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Want To learn Holdem Poker- Know Any good Resources?

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  1. toxtom

    toxtom BANNED BANNED

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    Got an amazing idea of a bot what I can make to get some insane winning over time, Don't really know much of Holdem poker (the one you can play at fulltiltpoker.com with 2cards in hand)
    Just know that AA ; AK ; KK ; 10/10's are one of best combinations...
    but anyone can link me to some site where there are listed the best combinations possible?
    Or If someone have some free time on their hands maybe can list down Top10 ?
    :rolleyes:

    Thanks a lot!

    Edit: YES I DID searched before posting this myself but really couldn't find something like this what I just asked.
     
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  2. keinehabe

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    well on this forum I don't think you can find too much info about playing poker :) I`m sure are some players around ... but it's IM type forum , I have some e-books if you wanna read drop me a pm , and fulltilt isn't only one place where you can learn ... actually fulltilt it's just very promoted one ... most of '' good '' sites on my opinion aren't even spend a cent on promotion :) ... they prefer to invest the money on other things or just to keep the profit level high per players ....

    I`m playing online since '99 , and I can tell you a thing easy to understand ... if you aren't good to '' read '' peoples you can't play , will lose most probably more than you can afford ! I saw over the years life's ruined because of gambling ... and it's sad to say most of stories witch I got in contact had something very similar ... peoples running for money , that's a false statement on gambling business because gambling is supposed to be for peoples who can aford to play and lose ... of course occasionally here will be some kind of winnings but most of the time .... most of the peoples losing . THAT's the game , poker it's actually a game of '' loosers '' if you can say so ... I never play to '' win money '' most of the time I`m playing just to relax myself and to spend some fun time online that's all , and most probably from here come this confidence and sometime actually that type of thinking bring me some winnings , don't think that means millions lol ... let's say on average i`m good .... but stories like mine ...
     
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  3. toxtom

    toxtom BANNED BANNED

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    I know I know, but after that Poker bot were posted seems that there are a lot of poker players!
    Didn't really had any other place to ask for this.. Really wanted to know only those best combinations possible.
     
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    :) ... well ... on holdem , you and all players from the table get 2 cards , and on the table will be dealt 5 other cards *( that are called community cards ) ... when all those cards are dealt ... with cards from hand the two one and the one from the table will need to have best 5 card combination on the table to beat your opponents . That's all the theory what you have to understand on the first stages of learning . Recommended for ya to read :
    Ranking poker hands . Poker it's a game of the mind first of all , it's about probabilities and combination's possible of cards , about psychology of the peoples and human behavior comportment , about '' type of peoples '' after all . Like I`ve said before , try and do not bet more than you can afford to lose and hopefully will not see any drama like story from you :).

    Trying to cheat online poker rooms with bots and such other type of kinds it's like playing with a fire when you are virgin ... this guys who are behind online poker rooms aren't '' newbies '' trust me , and most of those poker rooms sites afford to hire professionals to handle most of the business needs . Only one person I`ve '' learned '' it about this game on my life a close friend years ago , and honestly I`m still regret I`ve actually opened hes eyes because the story was turned on very ugly final ... :)
     
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  5. purebackend

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    Well, a little of an odd question.. However, I'll try to assist

    Doyle Brunson said "Texas Hold'em is a game that takes 5 minutes to learn and a lifetime to master" and that statement holds very true.

    The best way to learn the basics of the game is google and read some simple strategies, however, the better you get at the game the more complex it is.

    There is a big difference between online and live poker. Live poker has a large psychology aspect of getting reads of opponents, while online still has some, but much smaller.

    Basically, the amateur player will play his cards and his odds, while a pro will play the opponents cards more than his.

    Let say, I start with 9T preflop and a semi tight player raises from late position and I call, and the flop is all low cards and he checks to me, it's quite possible he missed the flop, so I should bet and could take the pot down. However, this situation could be completely wrong, if the guy is trapping an overpair, or a set, or if the guy will call down to the river with A high. Or perhaps he will think I didn't hit and reraise me with Ahigh and then I have to make a decision.

    Obviously the above paragraph is a bit confusing to someone who just started to play the game, however, it's just to demonstrate that there are a lot of different areas of the game that come into play the longer you play.

    If you want to learn, read up a bit, play on the playmoney at fulltilt or wherever, and once you get a grasp of basic strategy and are comfortable and enjoy it, go give the real money a try.

    However, as the previous poster said, only gamble what you can afford to lose. Gambling is fun because of the excitement, however, if you are trying to make money out of it, it is quite hard. Pro players take a long time to get very good at the game, and also build a large bankroll in order to play limits they can afford to lose at.

    Anyways, good luck ;)
     
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  6. toxtom

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    Thanks.. Yeah I know the basics! Just don't know the combinations...
    and at that wiki article there's writed only about regular poker with 5cards not holdem with 2.
     
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    1. Ace-Ace

    A pair of aces, also known as "pocket rockets" (and sometimes "American Airlines") is the best starting hand for Texas Hold 'Em.
    2. King-King

    Second on the list is a pair of kings, also known as "cowboys" or "King Kong."
    3. Queen-Queen

    A pair of queens, also known as "ladies," rounds out the top three best starting hands for Texas Holdem Poker.
    4. Ace-King (suited)

    This is where people start to disagree. A suited ace-king, also known as "big slick," is my pick as the fourth best starting hand for Texas Hold 'Em.
    5. Ace-Queen (suited)

    The suited "big chick," or "little slick," the nicknames given to a pocket ace-queen, is fifth on the list.
    6. Jack-Jack

    A pair of jacks -- also known as "hooks" or "fishhooks" -- checks in at number six on my list.
    7. King-Queen (suited)

    A suited royal couple, king-queen, is next in the list of Texas Hold 'Em Poker's most powerful starting hands.
    8. Ace-Jack (suited)

    Nicknamed "blackjack" for obvious reasons, and sometimes called "ajax," the ace-jack combo rates eighth.
    9. Ace-King (offsuit)

    Only one offsuit non-pair makes it into my list of the top 10 best starting hands for Texas Holdem Poker -- the "big slick," an ace-king.
    10. 10-10

    This is the only starting hand in the top 10 without a face card: a pair of tens (aka "dimes"). Some players believe that a suited king-jack is a stronger starting hand.

    Please hit thanks if it helped

    Also, i think the best way to honestly know the true best hands to play is to actually play ( and not talking about online/ completely different) so if your doing research to build a bot then i recommend looking online for free poker leagues and spend some time at nite going to the bars and playing, plus its a lot of fun.
     
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  8. thatguy11221

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    thought i should ad the top worst hands too.

    1. 2-7

    7-2 off suit is considered the worst hand in Texas Hold'em. They are the lowest two cards you can have that cannot make a straight (there's 4 cards between 2 and 7). Even if they are suited, they will make you a very low flush, and if either pairs, it's an awfully low hand.

    Because it is the worst, some players will play it for fun and in online games, it is known as "the hammer."

    2. 2-8

    This is the same basic problem as above, only you've got an 8 instead of a 7. Still pretty bad for a high card. Suited or not, this is a fold'em hold'em hand.
    3. Tie: 3-8 & 3-7

    The 3 makes this hand able to beat the two above it, but with the 3-8 you still can't make a straight and the 3-7 still, well, just sucks.
    4. 2-6

    While if the board gives you a miracle flop of 3-4-5, you will have a straight, someone with a 6-7 will have a higher straight. If you get a flush, someone will probably have a higher flush. Against even 4 players, this hand will lose about 90% of the time. Not good odds.
    5. Tie: 2-9, 3-9, & 4-9

    The only thing these three hands have going for them over the hands above is the 9. If the 9 pairs, you'll have a middle pair that could still be beat by anyone holding pocket 10s, jacks, queens, kings, or aces, yet you might be fooled by a board filled with low cards into thinking you have the best hand and losing a lot of money. No straights can fill the gap between these cards, either. Beware.
    6. 2-10

    This hand has a legendary quality because Doyle Brunson captured two World Series of Poker Bracelets with it. But it's not a good hand -- Doyle Brunson is one of the all-time best in the game and unless you're a Texas road gambler who's logged thousands of hours at the table, you shouldn't try and win with the Doyle Brunson.
    7. 5-9

    Another hand people play because it's fun is the old 9 to 5, the "Dolly Parton." If you're playing to win, it's not a good idea to play hands because they have a funny name. That may be how you pick the winning horse in a race, but poker's a marathon, not a sprint, and over the long term there's no doubt this hand is a statistical loser.
    8. Tie: 4-7, 4-8, 5-8, 3-6...

    All these hands will rarely win, especially unsuited. Toss 'em. Just toss'em. Yes, even in the little blind. If you see two low cards in the hole, unless you're in the big blind and you can see the flop for free, fold.
    9. Face card + low card, unsuited

    One of the most common mistakes I see beginners make is that when they see any paint in their hand, they play it. J-2, Q-3, K-4 whatever -- and most of these hands are losers. They're junk that may win a few pots, but more often will lose you huge cash when you find the other player has a higher kicker and the winning hand.
    10. Ace + low card, unsuited

    This is another common beginner mistake, playing any ace. Again, it may win occasionally, and heads-up it's a fine hand, but at a table of 4 or more, this hand shouldn't be played if there's a raise in front of you. You're going to be outkicked a lot with Ace-little, and it's going to feel like a kick in the junk when the other player shows their higher ace.
     
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  9. toxtom

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    Thaaaanks!
     
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    No problem Bro
     
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    Well if you have a facebook account, checkout the texas holdem app, it allows you to play with other players only with fake money. I would really help your skill.
     
  12. Onarxis

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    try http://www.poker-teams.com
     
  13. albaniax

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    That poker application on facebook is all crap, you can't learn anything there. People going all-in everytime, and calling all hands. Well, you have nothing much to lose, that's why they play that like.