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Want to Dominate First 5 Results in Google

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by johnnyc9999, Jun 10, 2010.

  1. johnnyc9999

    johnnyc9999 Junior Member

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    I found a great keyword with loads of searches and competition that is definitely beatable. Better still, the exact keyword phrase domains have not been taken.

    So basically, I want to launch 5 sites (similar but not duplicate) with the .com, .net, .org, .info, .biz of the exact keyword phrase.

    My question is - how to do thins without Google viewing them as all being by the same person and therefore discounting 4 of them?

    1. I bought the domains using 5 different GoDaddy Account.

    2. do i need to host them on different servers?

    3. different google analytics accounts?

    4. different adsense accounts?

    5. what other steps should I take?
     
  2. caroline42

    caroline42 Junior Member

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    They won't discount 4 of them for being owned by the same person or hosted on the same server, nor placed on the same Analytics account.

    You will have trouble with dup content and exessive cross linking, or trying to integrate them all in a small mini-net (linking sheme/wheel).

    If you avoid such mistakes, there shouldn't be a problem.

    If you ask for proof; I've done that, #1-4 so far and two other domains moving up actually, with a client's sites (just to show how sure I am).
     
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    johnnyc9999 Junior Member

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    Thanks. Thats interesting that you have evidence of no penalty for sites from same same hosting ranking well together.

    Has anyone else had the same success?
     
  4. Zakk-

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    I would suggest they all get put on different IP's, IP is a pretty big footprint.
     
  5. caroline42

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    The main point seems to be, not making the mistake of exessive cross linking or using "funny" link shemes, though I even interlinked the sites but very spareful. All are ranking well for their targeted KWs and it's not a new set up. I am working for this client since 6 years. They had been hosted with Shitdaddy and we moved them all a year ago to one dedicated server.

    There is more, (didn't want to talk too much about some of my own sites and hosting, but I'm not doing it with client's sites without being sure it wo't hurt them). I am running constant tests on all SEO questions and I am doing the same with a mix of own and small client's sites (extreme niche, low traffic) with more than 20 domains on one shared hosting account. All are ranking fine too.

     
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    1 use differnet ip
    2 donnt cross link
    3 use differnet way to push the serp with differnet domain.
     
  7. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    I'd suggest the following:

    1)Your Website (optimize, target keywords, build backlinks, etc)

    2)Make a Squidoo page, and build backlinks to it

    3)Make a hub page, and build backlinks to it

    4)Make a blogspot page, and build backlinks to it

    5)Make a twitter page or youtube page, and build backlinks to it

    You dominate the top 5 positions of Google that way, not the other way around.
     
  8. charlesbrunkle

    charlesbrunkle Registered Member

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    you'll need different c-class ips for each one of them, different webmaster tools and analytics account. I would also register the domains under different names...
     
  9. robby

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    your sites should on different ips If you do not want Google to notice this
     
  10. johnnyc9999

    johnnyc9999 Junior Member

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    @bobbylove321 - my problem with using web 2.0 sites is that I dont like spending a lot of time and effort making and promoting a site that I dont ultimately own. Although compared to ranking the Web 2.0 sites you list, it is a slower process to rank all the TLD's, I would argue that its a better return in the long run. (eg you can sell the sites...)
     
  11. MagicMike

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    I havent had any problem with similar sites and content. I have 12 sites that are all similar... however they don't link to each other at all. They all rank well. That seems to be the big problem... cross-linking. When I've done it, I've had trouble.

    While I haven't had a problem yet, I am considering getting different IP's in the future when I do this again. For important sites I think it would be a wise move.
     
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    I use domain privacy and divide them up between my different hosting accounts w/ different c classes. A great way to keep it private because even if it doesn't matter now (not confirmed), it may at some point as the engines can change at any time w/o notice. I'm not saying my method is absolute, just the way i do it.
     
  13. hipapatuk

    hipapatuk Newbie

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    just my 2 cents

    why don't you make them double index in google results :rolleyes: then you get even more exposure. Plus .info and .biz TLDs are.. idk I don't like them if I were you I would use only .com, .org and .net TLDs as they have more authority plus if your competition is weak idk why you are so much worry about the domain name, it sure does help a lot but all you need is your keyword in the url and you are still in the game :). Choose a SEO strategy don't just start building backlinks in a chaos way.