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Vita Vee's Ultra Spinnable Articles (The Leading Articles)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Windmill, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. Windmill

    Windmill Supreme Member

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    So I am thinking about using Vita Vee's Ultra Spinnable Articles to create 700+ web 2.0 properties for a massive backlinking scheme. These articles will be placed on article directories and web 2.0 properties.

    The problems I have are the following:

    1. These articles are used by 300 people. These will be used to death. There will be a lot of duplicate content out there. Lets say that a spun copy had 12,000 variations. Well, if 300 people use them, they will only be able to use them for 40 articles. Yeah, that isn't going to happen.

    2. I understand that these articles get indexed - but is that enough for backlinking? I know they don't necessarily have to rank. But is indexing but being penalised in the search engines for duplicate content going to lower the linking power? I am investing a lot into this scheme. If it falls down because the articles are of little value, thats money down the drain.

    Thinking of using a total of 10 articles for the project. So thats one article per 70 articles.

    What do you think? What has been your experience?
     
  2. veheme

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    This is your own scheme and your own network that nobody else has. Why go lower by using articles that other people have? In my experience when it comes to spin articles that are owned by others, they do not go for 40 or less. They know that there would not be 300 other people using it (the 100th person would likely get an already milked out spin article).

    Given this, the person will likely use the articles to blast in AMR which might mean AT THE VERY LEAST 200 copies per blast or they might send it to spam a PBN. If at least 100 people do this with the same article... you do the math on how many unique copes are left for you.

    You want to spread duplicate content on your network? It's your choice. At the end of the day, no matter what everyone else will say, content that has been original published in your site first will have an advantage when it comes to the robots and when it comes to human viewers.

    Always go for custom articles. I don't want this post to sound like an advertising post but if you're interested in getting one, PM me and I can help you.
     
  3. Windmill

    Windmill Supreme Member

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    Thats my thought. We are creating these content networks but we're using spun content, which sucks. The problem is there is a limited budget here, and those articles are well priced. Purchasing 700 unique articles would be ridiculous for our budget.
     
  4. blackieman

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    Those articles are spunned only to the sentence level. I think if you spin them to a few words in ever sentence, will work like a charm. My advice.
     
  5. Windmill

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    This is just false. Its a 5x5 system. The articles are spun 5 times, the paragraphs are spun 5 times, the sentences are spun 5 times, and every second word or so is spun 5 times. It makes amazing articles, but because they're shared with 300 people.. yeah.
     
  6. Askhar Kooni

    Askhar Kooni Newbie

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    I'ma try this out brizoo's ill let yall know how it go
     
  7. dotcomdesigns

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    I signed up for about a year and picked up his IM spun articles. But they're all very similar and I found it to be a waste of time. If you're serious I'd recommend Ubertoolz which is on here. This is in another league when it comes to spinning.
     
  8. Windmill

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    I will check this out, thank you :)
     
  9. veheme

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    Are you referring to their "character spinning"? I seriously hope nobody is still using it or they'll be devalued pronto.
     
  10. Windmill

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    Still very interested in custom spin articles. If anyone has any services they would like to suggest... I'd love to know thanks :)
     
  11. Windmill

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    Buuuump :) looking at vehem's service right now :)
     
  12. veheme

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    Yes, discussing it with "worryful" Windmill atm :p
     
  13. Windmill

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    Very much :D I've decided to go with vehem ftr :D I am playing with clients websites. I need to be very careful. When I find something that works... I purchase lots of it :D
     
  14. steelballs

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    Hey Windmill I have been following this thread with interest, but now that you have reached a comfort zone with the spinning issues

    What about giving yourself some safeguard option with your clients contract

    Maybe worth considering is extending the delivery timeline of your work, and executing and implementing the work in packages

    ie you implement a pilot scheme package and if it works great - you roll it out contract wide

    But if the pilot hits an issue you can roll it back and re-start which may save you a ton of time and money because if you had to roll back the whole contract because of issues that may be a big problem

    Just a thought that is all :cool:
     
  15. flist

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    I've been hand-writing tons of content for my Web 2.0s, but once I start spinning for further out, I'm going to be writing an article three times, spinning it at paragraph level, and then spinning the whole thing for synonyms (just best spinning). I've done a couple of articles this way, and I think it turns out pretty well versus just spinning the hell out of a single article.

    But if you need articles for 700 properties, that's going to be a lot of work!
     
  16. veheme

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    I don't think paragraph level spinning will give you better uniqueness. Sentence level spinning will because there are more sentences inside a paragraph.

    When it comes to sentence spinning, it is not a mere repeating of words or adding of phrases. You keep the thought but you change up the structure of the sentence. As an example:

    I would love to go to the beach tomorrow if it would not rain.
    If the weather is sunny tomorrow, I will definitely go to the beach.

    See? Works better that way instead of simply doing paragraphs imo. Combining them (sentence + para) is better though.
     
  17. TheMatrix

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    One thing you need to understand about VV's articles is that they do paragraph and sentence level spinning. If you take 1 sentence from the article, and search for it in Google, you'll get thousands of results.

    See this sample sentence I took from one of his articles:
    When you search this sentence in Google (with quotes) you get 5k+ results.. Ohh.. Snap.. This is where I don't like USA (not the country). :D

    If you are looking for articles for mass submissions and aa submissions, then I suggest you either add word-level spinning within USA's and then use them. Readability will be compromised a little, but you'll get REAL ultra spun articles! The articles will be unique over the Internet and unique as compared to variations.

    Matrix

    PS: Shameless plug here: I'll be offering these articles in 25+ niches soon, for a price you can't even imagine (I swear).
     
  18. VitaVee

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    @Windmill, thanks for considering using my Ultra Spinnable Articles.

    I must say this after reading this thread - do not listen to those who say that finding the same sentence on Google 5,000 times shows that the articles are not unique enough. They couldn't be further from the truth.

    The problem is that people are talking about things they do not master - without any testing to backup their sayings.

    The permutations of the paragraphs + sentences ensures that you will not find 2 similar articles on the internet.

    Now let me give you a proof that the Ultra Spinnable Articles (USAs) are seen as unique content by Google (contrary to some others who posted above I did some testings).

    You probably know that I am giving a free USA on this page:

    PHP:
    http://www.theleadingarticles.com/free-ultra-spinnable-article
    I am giving it for free since I started the service, about 2 years ago.

    That free USA has been downloaded by multiple thousands of people and posted on the internet multiple tens of thousands of times. It has been used much more than the paid articles that are limited to 300 customers each... much much more.

    So, I took that free article and posted 3 variations on theleadingarticles.com

    Then I posted another variation on wordpress.com

    1 day later all these 4 variations were indexed by Google - proving that Google sees all of them as unique content, even though this USA has been abused and posted all over the internet for about 2 years now... and obviously does not pass copyscape.

    You can check it by yourself, nothing better than a live proof:

    Go to Google.com and search for "Proof that USAs get indexed no matter how many people use them" - WITHOUT the quotes (or with if you want).

    You will see that Google has indexed all of them, even the 3 variations that are posted on theleadingarticles.com (and Google HATES duplicate content when it finds it on the same site).

    Conclusion: Google sees ALL our USAs as unique content - and this is true even now after the multiple Panda updates.

    Another test: I have created a blog that is full of USAs - only USAs are posted to this blog, and not only the premium USAs but also the USA Minis.

    This blog can be found here:

    PHP:
    www.theleadingarticles.com/toasterdemo
    And Google has no problem indexing all of them and sending traffic to my pages!

    If you check how many pages are indexed by Google for this blog you will see that there are 800+ posts indexed.

    Go to Google and type this:

    PHP:
    site:www.theleadingarticles.com/toasterdemo
    BTW for creating this blog I'm not posting manually, the Ultra Spinnable Members have access to our Ultra Blog Toaster that automatically sends their USAs to the blogs of their choices (controlled by keywords and categories)

    I also want to add that I'm using the USAs for my own SEO promotions - if they were not working I would obviously do something else.
     
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  19. TheMatrix

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    Hey Vita

    Appreciate your reply here.

    It's not a matter of discussing if Google will index articles or not. Even if you copy-paste a complete article from Ezine, it will also be indexed.

    Again, from your demo blog, from the top most post, I took the first sentence "The personal finance software you utilize can have a major impression on your financial state of affairs". G has 8k pages with the same sentence.

    It really is a matter of how unique/readable ratio someone wants, and what budget a person may have. If someone can compromise on readability a bit, then I guess adding word spinning to USAs is the best way. If you want to use articles for your main site, then readability should be your main goal. If you want articles for tiered linking, aa submissions, then you may compromise on readability.

    Just my 2 cents. :D
     
  20. veheme

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    That's right. I have to agree with The Matrix. No matter what you do or no matter how used the content is, Google will only index it BUT they know that it is duplicate content. Google won't index it only if your site has been deindexed by Google in the first place.

    It's not a matter of being indexed or not, for the OP, it was the matter of posting the outputs first and not having anyone else have the copy or the spintax file.