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Victim of blog scraping. Any benefits to me?

Discussion in 'Blogging' started by minhta77, May 31, 2009.

  1. minhta77

    minhta77 Newbie

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    Hi
    I have a wordpress blog site which I manually aggregate information technology news. I became aware of autoblogging creating this website, however as this website has a PR 4, I?m concern about possibly losing PR juice through autoblogging as it?s fairly new to me. Not long after the launch of my website, another autoblog site began scraping my content.

    This other website has a PR 0 and is only able to take my summary RSS feed instead of my full RSS feed. That website is also linking back to my website for the full story.

    I?m taking this situation in good stride as I may try my hand at autoblogging very soon, lol. What I like to know your thoughts on it whether there is any benefits to my website as a result of being a victim of this blog scraper? Since this other website is not displaying my full story, I don?t think my website can be penalised by Google for duplicate content. Also if Google were to penalise for duplicate content, I?m sure it knows that my posts are the original posts.

    Also if anyone has their own non-autoblog website and has been a victim of blog scrapping, can they share their experience and if they?ve noticed any lost or gain in traffic, revenue, etc please?

    Thanks in advance. BHW is great, I?m learning about stuff that I find really interesting.
     
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    TBH... There is only positive things that come out of this, the scrapper is only summarising your original post and linking the post to your site meaning you are getting backlinks, more exposure and eventually that exposure will help your PR.

    But hang on arn't you scraping content your self?

    BTW is your site techchuck.c0m?
     
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  3. koshiro

    koshiro Junior Member

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    Take some titles from your posts and google them, see if you're ranking better than the scraper. If you are, then its no problem. If its ranking better than you, they might be getting some traffic you originally should have gotten.

    In any case, its not a big deal. If you're a PR 4, there's little chance that a new autoblog will siphon too much traffic from you.. anyway they link to you right? I should be more worried about autoblogs who scrape full content and don't link back..
     
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    I've been on both sides of this - I have my stuff scraped and I scrape other peoples (also scrape my own too).

    There can be downsides - I often rank better than the original author for a lot of the content :) - but I don't care if it happens the other way around and someone does better with my content, but I know some people cry about it when it happens to them.

    What you can do is turn the tables a little by including an affiliate link in the first few sentences of some of your posts - then anyone scraping them is also promoting your links for you :)
     
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  5. blackhat+er

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    I think this thread is stupid and should be moved to the assclown section with so many newb questions. If he is scraping just your summaries and no other information and no other sites than it would be very hard for him to out rank you. You sound stupid when you claim to be a victim of something that you offer your viewers. You offer the rss feed correct? Ok then you obviously dont know what rss feed is or something cuz if you did then you wouldnt have posted this crap.
     
  6. minhta77

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    Thanks to most of the people who replied to my question.

    @funktrust: you're right. While waiting for a reply to this thread, I was reading other posts and found a statement by Specopkirbs who said that if other blog scraper are linking to you, they're giving you backlink. However given that this website has a PR 0, I'm not holding my breath for anything significant. lol.

    And no, my website is not techchuck. I had a good laugh at your question and wonder if other people might refrain from commenting because they also thought my website was techchuck. I'll refrain from mentioning what my site is for now so I can monitor the result of this blog scraping and in case the owner of this other website is also a member of BHW.

    @koshiro: Thanks for the tip, I will give that a try.

    @bhimeruk: Thanks for sharing. As I've mentioned, I'm not upset about this other site feeding off my RSS, I'm just curious about the outcome as I've worked hard on my website to get it to PR 4 and this website has a purpose other than to be an autoblog.

    Did you often rank better than the original owner because your website has a higher PR or due to something else?

    @blackhat+er: lighten up dude. We're all here to learn something. Well here is something for you to learn about. I found a post in this forum where someone said that techchuck was able to display the full story off a summary feed from another news website. Another member replied that they must have some custom script to grab the full story from the summary feed. It hasn't happened to me but it shows that if someone is determined enough, they can do it at the expense of my own work.
     
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    Well if scraping mean I'm taking content off another website then Yes I am scraping. However what I'm doing that is different is for a particular topic, I'll gather different articles into the one blog post and either summarise it or list a summary of each of these articles and then post the link to the original source.

    This way, a reader interested in that topic will be able to get an overall idea from my one post. We're all so busy (or lazy) these days, it nice kill multiple birds with one stone.
     
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    Don't worry about it. You won't lose PR because of somebody scraping your site.
     
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    Word on the street is that dup content penalties only apply when content is reapeated on the same webpage, so as to prevent abuse via copy. Otherwise a webmaster will have to file a complain to possibly inflict a penalty.

    So Scrapping is Google offensive, only webmaster 2 webmaster offensive... if they are offended.

    I think the summary + link scrapping method is legit, and a good source of backlinks to your op.
     
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    have you checked about if the scraped content is only available on yours and that other PR0 blog? and i think if your blog was indexed before the other one then google would rather punish the newer site for dublicate content then yours since your blog was established earlier.
     
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    I'll think you'll be ok theres so many sites that have duplicate content
     
  12. minhta77

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    Thanks for all your reply.

    @legendoflink: I'm not concern of losing PR as that will only happen if I'm linking out, which is not the case here. What I'm concern about is losing trafic or ranking on Google, which upon further research, does not seem to be the case either. So in all, I'm happy. lol.

    As for the duplicate content stuff, yes I've heard the same thing as well. I guess that Google realised that there can only be so much (or so less) original content and every other website is either copying someone elses' content or summarising someone elses' content. So if Google were to penalise these other websites, they wouldn't be in business :D
     
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    OP - dont trip ...

    Addmany backlinks in the feed, and I think you could also use feedburner for your rss and that might shove a bunch of adsense crap down their throats too - maybe you get backlinks and monetization at the same time.
     
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    @c0ntenth|ef
    I will check Google like you suggested. Thanks for the good direction.

    @sputnik11
    That's a great idea, I didn't know you can include ads in your RSS feed until I just saw one in an RSS feed. Then your commment made sense. Thanks. I'm going to find out how to include ads in my RSS feed soon.

    Now that I'm getting an idea of how autoblogs interact with my website, it seemed that it's actually a good thing for them to be grabbing feeds off my website and more backlinks to me. So far, my traffic report indicated that no one from this other website has clicked to my website but that doesn't matter.

    I was initially concern because I didn't want my site to become a prey to autoblog sites but it seemed that we can co-exist together. lol
     
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    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLLL....argggghhhh what'da'fucg?VICTIM?YOU?LOT OF PEOPLE CRYING.....Anyway,i love when i create something that others scrape and use-usually i get linkback and some aff. sales.One more thing i love to do-approving crappy B.S. Spam comments and pinging-who gives a fuck if comment is good or not-for SE it's new content-hidden from visitors.........