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Using .INFO Domains For Excellent Income!

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by whs1978, Oct 25, 2009.

  1. whs1978

    whs1978 Registered Member

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    For some reason I don?t understand, I am feeling a little generous today and thought I would contribute something that may help some of the new guys still trying to figure out how to make a nickel or two. I thought I would discuss my very recent experiment with a brand new .INFO domain, so, hope this helps.

    I am a lazy SOB so if something involves too much work then I probably will not get involved. Having said that, if you aren?t turned off by the idea of a little work then follow these steps and you can build a long-term residual income. You don?t have to steal some Numbnut?s rehashed ebook to learn how to make money.

    When you build a new website it is just sitting out there naked. No Google love. Nothing. No one is going to give you those precious links you have to have. This little article is about stealing a little of that Google love for yourself.

    But first, about the .INFO thing. I enjoy reading through lots of worthless downloaded ebooks and watching garbage videos. It is kind of a perverse hobby. I keep reading and hearing about how you should try to avoid .INFO domains if your want to be taken seriously by Google and your visitors. Or, other gurus will warn you in ominous terms that it will take a lot longer and a lot more work to rank a .INFO domain than a .com, .net, or .org. It's kind of like hearing a chorus of pond frogs late at night.

    So, being the BHW contrarian that I am, I figured that the negative .INFO thing could be yet another load of Guru horseshit. I decided to find out for myself. I have close to a hundred .com?s, etc. so why not promote a ?cheap? .info?

    I bought a general two-word .INFO domain for the niche I wanted to target. It was a nice clean two-word phrase that makes sense without the extra hyphens or other wordy nonsense added to get the keyword domain I wanted.

    Then with Xsite Pro 2, I built 18 pages of information around specific products that have moderate to difficult competition. I could have used Wordpress. It doesn?t matter what you use to build the website. The 18 web pages are content I rewrote from product reviews, and manufacturers specifications. I then created a very small link wheel of 5 Web 2.0 sites that allow blogs, but did not close the wheel with interlinking. Why only 5 free blogs? Well, sometimes less can be more if you do it correctly. It does not matter what free blog service you use. Just pick a few good ones like Wordpress and Vox that allow ******** in the blog posts.

    Next I backlinked each of the 5 Web 2.0 blog properties with 50 profile links Angela Edwards style. Then, I used Magic Article Submitter to blast out only 1 spun article to the network of article sites available within the software. The Web 2.0 sites link to the inner pages of the website, and with the spin syntax of the article submitter I was able to alternate the links in each article so that I could point links to all the inner pages of my website I wanted to target.

    Two week after all the article submitting and backlinking of the Web 2.0 sites I now have 10 of the 18 product pages sitting on page 1 in Google. As a matter of fact, for some of the search terms the pages are sitting at position 1 on page 1 of Google. I'll start my next phase of back linking to secure the positions and hopefully move the rest of the pages up the listings.

    In short, I think that the advice to avoid .INFO domains is pure bullshit. I built and promoted the website white hat style. This makes me believe that I can test markets with a 99-cent initial domain cost and if I like the results, I likely will never have to come up with a crappy sounding .com name to feel, and be legitimate in the eyes of Google, and website visitors. And, to answer the question in your mind, yes, I have started getting sales. There is no adsense on the site. It is strictly affiliate products, but adsense would be ok too.

    I don?t really think it matters very much what domain extension you buy. The real key in this process is to have topically relevant content on your web page being linked to by other websites that have a theme or topic related to the page they are linking to on your website. You might want to think about what I just wrote in this paragraph, because it is a very important key.

    The trick, or ?Secret Sauce?, for the Web 2.0 sites, is to avoid the appearance of duplicate content. Otherwise your links will be quickly discounted as soon as Google spots the same article on different sites pointing to the same pages on your website. How fast can you say link manipulation? Well, sure as hell Google knows what you are doing.

    Avoid posting a spun version of the same article at all the Web 2.0 blog sites. You see, each spun article has exactly the same topic stated in a different way at each blog post and that is not going to help you very much. There is a much more effective way. Oh, and yes, contrary to popular belief, Google can sniff out spun articles too, but that doesn?t really matter for what we are doing here.

    Well, that ?Secret Sauce? really isn?t a secret after all since everybody knows that unique content is what Google wants anyway, but at lest I am not charging $67 to fool you into thinking it is a secret. Your next step is to just find a few crappy PLR articles and do an equally crappy, super-quick rewrite, and post them to the blogs. Just make damn sure your rewrite them without repeating word phrases. I will elaborate in more detail so this makes sense.

    For example, this phrase ?your next step is?, should be reworded to say something like, ?here is what should be done now?. Does that make sense to you? What you write doesn?t have to be pretty, or even good. It does need to be different from the original. You don?t have to have rewrite very many articles and the reason why will hopefully make sense in a moment.

    Now, let?s say your website is selling dog training ebooks and products from eBay, CJ, Amazon?who cares?you?re selling something, or you have adsense for the visitors to click on. Your Web 2.0 blogs should each be on a different topic within the dog training theme.

    Blog 1 would be posted with a poorly rewritten PLR article about crate training for dogs. Blog 2 will have an article about training with shock collars. So on and so forth until you are done posting your free blogs with helpful but very quickly rewritten PLR content. Do you see where we are going here? Each blog should have a completely different article, unlike a spun article that simply regurgitates the same information in a different way.

    Each blog will have resource links pointing to the inner pages of your website. Don?t post the exact same list of links with the exact same anchor text in every blog. Post your links back to your web pages at different places on each blog, vary the anchor text for each link, and change up the order of links. Don?t post all of your links at each site. Spread them out. Create more free blogs if you need to. I usually do not post more than 5 outbound links to my money pages from any one of the free blogs. Do you see what we are doing here? It is called diversity, or uniqueness. Google likes it. Is it more work? Yeah, but there are consequences for not doing it, like not ranking at all.

    Each, but not all of the blogs, will link to each other with something like - Hey check out this ?Shock the shit out of your dog Electric Dog Collars link, it might shock your dog into obedience.? The shock collar blog may link to the crate training blog, etc., etc. I personally do not think you should ever close a link loop within a network of themed blogs. This just makes it easy for Google to spot link manipulation. Just try to randomly interlink the blogs and use more free blogs if you need to.

    By doing all of this you are adding diversity and a degree of uniqueness within the dog-training theme network of blogs. You are developing a relevant cloud of links pointing back to your money pages. Does this make more sense than plastering the exact article or spun clones to free blogs?

    Can you see why Google would view the arrangement I am suggesting more favorably? Does it make sense that Google will value backlinks to your website from a small networked group of blogs engaged in a ?web conversation? aka interlinking, with unique blog content topics about the same theme far more than spun content blogs linked in an easily identifiable circle?

    Should you want to (and I recommend that you do) you can continue adding more 100 to 300 word posts to your free blogs for more backlinks. Add images to the blogs. Make each blog different. Post links in your blog to Wikipedia, .Gov and .Edu sites to lessen the impression that you are just building a link farm. Uniqueness is what Google wants. Give them what they want. Those blogs should begin to gain trust with Google and pop the link juice you send to your money pages.

    If necessary, build a bigger, better network of free Web 2.0 blogs for even more topically related links within the niche theme you want to promote. Get links to your free blogs from profile links, or links from articles you submit to article directories, and cross link your blogs randomly.

    Avoid patterns that can be detected easily, like posting the exact same article to ten different blogs with the same exact list of links, anchored with the same exact anchor text pointing to your money pages. You may as well fly an airplane banner that says Link Manipulation can be found here.

    Don?t have a niche? Don?t have a product? Don?t know how to make a sales page? Don?t know how to set up for adsense? Don?t know how to research keywords? No problem! There is enough free info here at BHW on all these topics to choke a horse. Find it. Read it. Use it.

    I hope this information is useful to some of you, especially newbies who get inundated with bullshit about making money. This information is nothing new or earthshaking. Google keeps telling us they want unique content. So, lets find a creative ways to give it to them. No doubt, other people will have strong opinions opposite to mine on this, but I can only follow the results and the money.

    Oh, and if I catch you making a ?Special Report? out of this and flogging it on DP or WF I will hunt you down and castrate you. This is just for BHW please. Ok, that?s it! No shit, it is that simple. Rinse and repeat.

    Good luck.
     
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  2. orion_pt

    orion_pt Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Excellent post for its insight on SEO

    Quality vs. Quantity
     
  3. g111k

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    great post, well known common sense seo tactics nicely canned to an idiot proof point...

    it's true google will value uniqueness above anything else, like the extension of ur domain :p

    anyone can make money online and it's a lot easier than most people make it seem to be... i can't wait to see someone post something along the lines of.. "so um like, can u tell us ur niche u ranked on first page with using this method?"

    god damn it! u ppl will never make a penny with an attitude like that!!! when someone slaps some food on the table infront of u and hands u a spoon, the least u can do is get a spoonful and fucking chew it urself !!!:D
     
  4. thomas2000

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    can u tell us ur niche u ranked on first page with using this method?....

    lol

    sorry @g111k ..I can't resist :D
     
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    I keep on seeing Angela's stuff, but I've never known just what she does. Care to explain? Profile links? What?
     
  6. sirtaxster

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    Yeah, I'd like to know this too.

    This method is pretty much what I do minus all the unique content.

    Once you lay out a blueprint and follow it, this game becomes a peice of cake. I think the problem most people have is that they are unwilling to put in all that effort because there is no guarantee of success with any keyword.
     
  7. MsMoneyMagnet

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    Thanks for this whs1978. I've always had a slight suspicion that .info's are just as good as their top level domain counterparts. Who cares what it is as long as the content is good? Prolly the gurus who say to avoid .info's are doing so to keep them for themselves.

    PS: I won't be surprised if your post DOES end up on DP. Good luck with that! And no, I wouldn't even think about doing that! ;)
     
  8. misseslee

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    Excellent information. I enjoyed reading your post.
    I, too read a lot of ebooks. Thanks for your
    share..:):):):)
     
  9. whs1978

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    Thanks for the kind comments. Google will be kind to you if you give them what they want even if it is on a "crappy" .INFO domain.

    Here is the competition for one of the keyword phrases I wanted to rank for, with three words in the phrase:

    Allintitle: 223,000 results
    Inurl: 162,000 results
    Keyword phrase in quotes "keywords" 6,140,000
    The PR of Web Pages on page 1 range from PR 3 to PR 5, except for mine which is currently n/a and sitting at position 10 on page 1 and getting lots of clicks.

    In the past I would have looked at those competition numbers and decided to forget about it. Now, I analyze the quality of competition on page 1 only and in spite of initial appearances, the competition quite often sucks.

    I don?t really pay much attention anymore to the allintitle, inurl, etc., etc. because in the past they have kept me from entering easy to penetrate markets. I just really have not found that type of competition analysis to be very accurate, but maybe I just don?t understand the numbers. Truthfully, I really don?t care about anything but the competition on page 1. All I really do is look at the backlinks for the top 10 websites, and also see if the sites have the keywords in the title, H1 tags, and the URL.

    Most of the time the competition is not on page optimized very well. You cannot rely on the raw backlink count for a web page when you use Yahoo either, I do use Yahoo but the backlink results for a page often include tons of links from the same website so I only count those one time.

    If you examine the source of the competition?s backlinks you often find that the links are not contextually relevant, and that makes them vulnerable to being overpowered by your contextually relevant backlinks. There are often times when you will run into a situation where all the websites on page 1 are SEO?ed quite well and have one or more powerhouse backlinks that you may never be able to overcome. That is a good time to target a different keyword phrase.

    It really is not hard to find markets to exploit if you just analyze the competition to see what is really going on. Then spend a little time thinking ahead on how to make your backlinks more relevant than theirs. You may not always get your page on the first page of the listings but you stand a damn good chance, and the first page is where the money is.

    As you can tell, I do a lot of my stuff manually, but only for the stuff that really counts. There is nothing that I do that is not already well known. I do use automation such as RSS Bot, Social Bot, Magic Article Submitter, etc, but not very extensively.
     
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  10. whs1978

    whs1978 Registered Member

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    Well, all it really amounts to is registering as a member at one of the many thousands of websites like livejournal.com and dropping your link in your about me section of your members profile page. There are lots of packages you can download here at BHW with plenty of sites you can drop your link on.

    Personally, I hate doing profile links because it bores the crap out of me. But they are good for getting your Web 2.0 blogs noticed and really excellent for backlinks on your articles at EzineArticles and GoArticles. Hope that helps.
     
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    Great information
    I used .info domains myself..and was close to giving up on them after all of the bad things that i have read.
    but after a little hard work i have one of my .info sites ranked in third position on G for its keywords.. In the end i dont think Big G cares too much if you use info or com...
     
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    Awesome Post !
     
  13. SpeakToTman

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    Great post man, some real good tips here for seo newbs.
    And i totally agree with you about the extension, ive even got some FR.EE .co.cc domains ranked top in google with a similar strategy!

    We all know what google wants, give it to them and you WILL get ranked...no doubt..
     
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    Excellent post.
     
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    Great Post!
     
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    i dont see why the .info domain should be underrated.

    if it is only because of the cost of purchasing it then a .org domain should rank better than the .com for the same keyword.

    i own a .org & .com domain for the same keyword , both having unique content and almost same number of backlinks. but .org domain is not ranking all that well.

    i dont think domain extension has anything to do. atleast at the level of sub niches.
     
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    Excellent post. I just bought 5+ info domains with my keyphrase in them and then came across this thread.

    I am going to take up each domain and then build a 5-property linkwheel around it without closing the loop.

    One basic q tho: should the 5 web2.0 properties(helper sites) have my keyword in them? like say mykeyword.wordpress.com and mykeyword.vox.com...or does the name in helper sites dont matter?

    Also, do you suggest installing wordpress on info domain or just static html site? coz the content is more or the less not going to change once i put it out there.
     
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    I think the only time I would suggest a .com over an .info is when you are doing anything offline. People may not remember that your site is a .info and enter a .com automatically.

    Otherwise, I agree with the OP, .infos are just as good as any of the other TLDs. But, I'm usually guilty of covering mine up with a redirect in emails (website(dot)com/redirect.php) or whatever because sometimes people see .infos and think SCAM!
     
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    A good reminder to get "back to basics"

    good summery
     
  20. whs1978

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    I have not run a test to see if keywords in free blogs are better than JoeBlow blog. I just used different individuals names and signed up under one email account. Google can't see the email address so vary either the keywords or user names for each blog so none of them are the same.

    Conventional wisdom says that keywords in the blog name are the way to go. I am not so sure though. One thing for certain is that keywords in the blog name should be a really obvious indicator to Google and blog administrators that the blog is constructed for SEO purposes.

    As far as the five blogs, that was only because I was too lazy to build more. My next phase of blogs for more backlinking will probably be 10 or more. You could start with ten or forty; whatever you have time to get done without getting bogged down. The main thing is to get some motion going.

    In building the website I generally use Xsite Pro, but that is because it is so easy for me to maintain. I really don't sweat the Wordpress vs static site unless I really want a blog. The best thing is to use the tool that allows you to get the job done the way you want it done and get your site up.
     
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