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Using GSA directly on money site - Are the links considered to be low quality?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by hardcorebiker, Oct 13, 2012.

  1. hardcorebiker

    hardcorebiker Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I am building links directly to money site with GSA by setting only Social Network, Article in GSA. I have set PR 5+ PR sites so I am getting pretty good contextual links from PR 5+ article sites, wikis etc..Ofcourse I have turned off the other crappy links. So I am only building the high PR contextual do-follow links

    Now I am wondering whether are these Low quality links even after the PR 5+? Should I be safe and use GSA on tier 1 only instead of money site?
     
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  2. michaelshezzer

    michaelshezzer Junior Member

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    GSA is fine to be used on money site as you are clearly using the gash filter. I usually use PR 1+ and get a good variation of Pr1 -6.
     
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  3. elteliblejvi

    elteliblejvi Newbie

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    gsa recommend me?
    I have the Scrapebox
    The microniches positions them well?
    use you vps with gsa ?
    regards
     
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  5. assphuck

    assphuck Senior Member

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    The quality of the links you create is not merely based on PR, but on the quality of the content you produce. Well written and hand spun articles (at least sentence and word level minimum) are good. Better to spin at the paragraph level too with a length that would allow for thorough pages to be created.
     
  6. hardcorebiker

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    Hmm didnt knew that. I thought its just about links when bulding tier 1 links
     
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    Many of my tier 1s are hand-built and of a good quality. Then I blast the heck out of them using lower quality content that is still good enough to pass a human review. In fact, I have tier 1s that are on the first page of Google for the keywords I am targeting. It's not just about backlinks, but about authority. The only way to establish authority is to get detailed on your website and use the message in your tiers to reference your website in a manner that gives algorithms the impression that your money site is indeed a good point of reference.

    Say you are selling a red widget. Build your money site/first tier to answer the questions below:

    who (who has red widgets)
    what (what is a red widget)
    where (where you can get a red widget)
    why (why you need a red widget)
    when (when you know you should get a red widget)
    how (how a red widget works)

    Once your money site/first tiers are well designed to be a one-stop solution to answer the who, what, where, when and why queries, it's very easy to reference these pages in your second+ tiers.

    Best of success!
     
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  8. wezzy

    wezzy Junior Member

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    So basically the key is to have a nicely written and quality spun articles in your 1th tier when using GSA?
     
  9. NoTitleRequired

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    Sorry to bring up an old thread but i have the same question as OP. Is it ok if i have GSA pointed directly to my money site, or should i create 4 or 5 Tier 1 pages and point GSA to those. Also i have ALL the settings of GSA Search Engine Submitter turned ON and have Maximum 50 OBL and PR 1+ checked.

    Is there a danger of getting screwed by google if i point it directly to the money site? I thought it would be ok since i have those settings on.

    -Dave
     
  10. bfly1

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    It is safer to point it at other tier 1's you build and have control of. That way you can always pull the rip cord if needed.
     
  11. evilclown

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    I persoanlly consider GSA a trash farm linker. Is good for T3 or T4 but the quality for T1 maybe T2 is bad. It could be that I care about quality on my markets as they are not junk markets.
     
  12. NoTitleRequired

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    But i would only have like 4 or 5 backlinks to my money site. I've heard people say that they would rather have just a few quality backlinks then thousands of crappy ones.

    So you're saying i should make some Squidoo lenses which link to my money page, then use GSA to create links to that Squidoo page?

    Thanks
     
  13. bfly1

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    I would start with 4-5, then build another tier to the tier 1's. then repeat the process .
     
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    Guys if anyone of you having site and not having tools and interested in doing JV with me you can pm me. m having all SEO tools
     
  15. evilclown

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    I tend to not offer a direct product but if you really want to harvest links T1, T2 try UD, or the new Licorne AIO, I am working again with MS. I keep trying new things in the market but always tend to go back to MS. I guess is how the community work behind the product. I have been in a few Q&A sessions, so I guess that's what keeps pulling me back. LOL

    You can have a look at their training section
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    http://www.magicsubmitter.com/training/
    Good luck.
     
  16. Scritty

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    I run GSA 24/7. Yet another update today.
    If it's a small niche or local marketing I've found GSA can get great results on its own.
    If it's a tough niche - and a national or international market, then (although GSA may work) I prefer to have more control and be able to use bespoke sites not just open source platform sites.
    A preference would be to use "one off "sites like Wordpress.com, tumblr, Blogger, blog.com etc as well as similar "one off" sites on article and wiki platforms etc to create a high powered, content filled and diversely platformed first tier where I can post to the profiles over and again. I stick some open source platform sites (articlebeach, elgg, mediawiki all those) in for variation.

    Nuke and similar tools give you access to dozens of those one off coded sites (hundreds even) with huge authority, PR and d0follow. They also allow for exact granular control of every aspect, a huge variety of platforms (QUALITY PLATFORMS not guest books, directories, ping and trackback receptors - which are all pretty crap) and set every aspect of a varied content strategy at a set on a macro level if required. Control of anchor variation, platform variation, link placement, spinning rotation, anchor text, link structure management etc. Most importantly, the easy re-use of existing profiles for multiple posts and the creation of very complex linking structures in a digramatic form.

    Even then I tend to use tools like Nuke to link to a manually created first tier of sites. Normally a dozen or more mix of self hosted (on separate hosts and IPs) and 3rd party hosted sites I create myself and populate with content slowly over time myself.

    One way or the other, whether you go Nuke or GSA, if you want to compete with a high powered site with a lot of inbound links, you are going to have to get a lot of inbound links yourself. As long as you do it sensibly over time and retain control and understanding of the link structure and background you are creating, you will likely win out in the end.

    Whatever you choose. GOOD LUCK! :)

    Scritty
     
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  17. ruaj_esh

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    Is there any reason why you personally use ultimate demon?

    I have only used it for a month but the results I got... Let's just say I could of gotten more done manually in one day than what I got with UD in 7 days submitting 24/7 with private proxies.

    The result? Out of 700 manually checked urls it only successfully posted on 24 sites :( plus I find the user interface unintuitive.

    But heck maybe I did something wrong and might find I love it, that's why I would like to hear your take on ultimate demon.
     
  18. FatSteve

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    You can do A LOT with GSA, even build links directly to money site.

    Key points there:

    1. relevancy - filter out ONLY relevant sites
    2. link selection - avoid guestbooks/pingbacks/etc - try to stick with quality links
    3. content - make sure you put in good article and manually write relevant blog comments/forum posts
    4. anchor texts - make sure you have exact match keyword as anchor maximum 25-35%
    5. submission speed - slow is better, at least in the beginning till you see some results one way or the other. Also, you want to build your links continuously so do 20-30 submissions, pause for 60-120minutes, repeat. Do not nuke out 200-300 and then go to sleep for 24h - this will look odd because your links will appear only at specific times and that says it is most likely automatic, so stick to natural routines - slow drip feed, easily done with GSA.

    That would sum it up in my opinion.
     
  19. NoTitleRequired

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    Scritty you always seem to give really clear advice. And FatSteve thanks, i was going to remove GSA pointing to my money page until i read your points, now i'll just make sure to have only a couple of the submittal boxes ticked.

    I posted a picture of my SEO outline if someone wouldn't mind taking a look at it and giving me some feedback.
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...imization-outline-any-advice.html#post5203809

    -Dave
     
  20. tejoro

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    Completely agree with you. I think it's more important the use of that tool you do, than the tool itself.