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Using BlackHatCodeBreaker and CPA networks

Discussion in 'CPA' started by moonbitee, Jun 13, 2009.

  1. moonbitee

    moonbitee Junior Member

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    Hello Dear Black Hat Members,

    So im now moving onto CPA networks and yesterday applied to 20 of them, got already approved by 4. I have the blackhatcodebreaker script, i already managed to install it on a test page and works fine. Now i just have to put it to work on a movies site that is ready to go.

    So i was thinking to try maxbounty offers with blackhat codebreaker and i wanted to know if its ok to promote incentive allowed traffic offers from maxbounty with this script on a movie site. Should i blank the referer? or since the offers are incentive allow i should not worry?

    It was a pain in the ass to get approved in CPA networks (you know the phone calls, emails, etc) so getting banned now is not an option.

    Will maxbounty get angry because of the type of website or the blackhatcodebreaker gateway?

    Thanks!

    M.
     
  2. jamesjr7

    jamesjr7 Registered Member

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    Maxbounty will ban you if you advertise in any way they do not approve. I would blank the referrer, or, even better, do a blog and get the CPA Redirector plugin. Then just use the link provided by CPA Redirector for the offers in the BlackHatCodeBreaker. Thats my method!
     
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  3. Afflicted

    Afflicted Regular Member

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    I tried using MaxBounty with BHCB, and Maxbounty was shaving my earnings... I think.
    I had over 600 clicks, and 0 leads.
    With **************, that would have given me AT LEAST 70 leads.
    Something is definatly fishy with them, even though my AM is super nice whenever I talk to her.
     
  4. moonbitee

    moonbitee Junior Member

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    I will try this out thank you.

    What i still dont get is if the offer allows incentive traffic why not use it with BHCB?
     
  5. g-Vector

    g-Vector Regular Member

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    @Afflicted
    Check the TOS of that particular offer. It might be that they only credit you upto a certain maximum number of leads. Anything more in leads beyond that number is your loss. But zero leads sounds fishy, although "shaving off" wouldn't be something I'd expect from MaxBounty because they have a good name.

    It's like that with many offers, especially the ones with high lead payout. That's why they can offer you a high lead payout. They will stop paying you after a certain number of leads.
    The exact same offer with a lower lead payout at another CPA company may be more lucrative because they will pay you for every lead.
    If you're sending lots of targeted traffic and most of the time manage a high CTR, it's always worth checking this out first.

    Robert
     
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  6. g-Vector

    g-Vector Regular Member

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    All CPA companies will ban you if they catch you doing something against their TOS. They might even report you at cpawatchdog.com. It's not specific to MaxBounty.

    BTW moonbitee,
    If you go to the download page you'll read this :
     
  7. dayomoto

    dayomoto Junior Member

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    if you are using it with incentive offers so they wont ban you....would they? i asked my max bounty affiliate manager and said it was alright although i was only approved for incentive offers...they is what the codebreaker works for anyway
     
  8. stealthisblog

    stealthisblog Regular Member

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    MaxBounty WILL NOT BAN YOU. I've used their incentive offers before. They convert badly and are shaved ALOT, but they will not ban you. The whole point of incentive traffic is to use incentives (no way), which is what you are doing. Your fine, but be prepared to deal with a whole round of BS from MaxBounty (hell, all incentive email submits scrub to death...)
     
  9. g-Vector

    g-Vector Regular Member

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    This is interesting.

    @dayamoto, what exactly did you ask your AM ?
    If it was OK to promote incentive offers with incentives ?
    Or, if it was OK to promote incentive offers with BHCB ?

    @stealthisblog, did you promote the badly converting incentive offers with BHCB ?

    Robert
     
  10. dayomoto

    dayomoto Junior Member

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    i didnt say the specific gateway lol. i showed him my site and he said it was okay and told me i would be only approved on incentive offers which was what i needed anyway and i got aapproved
     
  11. g-Vector

    g-Vector Regular Member

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    What's new?

    Robert
     
  12. BlackHatCodeBreaker

    BlackHatCodeBreaker Registered Member

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    I've had other customers reporting the same. Most networks allow BHCB if you're using incentive only.
    Cheers,
    Brad
     
  13. g-Vector

    g-Vector Regular Member

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    Yes, but that's the problem. You can't predict which companies are going to allow it.
    So you don't take a risk.

    Robert

    Later dayamoto also mentioned that he didn't mention the specific gateway (BHCB) to his AM.
     
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  14. MaxSteve

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    You should be able to tell which companies allow it pretty easily. Most campaign descriptions include whether or not incentive traffic is allowed. If you can't see it in the campaign description, check with the network terms of service/affiliate agreement document.
     
  15. g-Vector

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    It's about whether the use of BHCB is allowed, and the type of website. Not whether giving incentives is allowed :
     
  16. BlackHatCodeBreaker

    BlackHatCodeBreaker Registered Member

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    As I said before - I've had customers reporting that their CPA rep explicitly OKayed using BHCB on their incentive-only accounts. I'll have to check which networks they reported, but pretty sure MB was one of them.

    Cheers,
    Brad

    PS.
    A BHW WSO will arrive tomorrow. Price will be $27, as currently offered on other forums. (Sorry, guys. Should have started the WSO already, only I need to gain more posts b4 I'm allowed to, and I'm sticking to posting posts only where it's useful)

    Also BHCB V3.0 will arrive shortly after. Believe me when I say V2 will look like V3's baby sister. Price will JUMP, but V2 buyers will get V3 for free (free updates for life).
    B.
     
  17. choad

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    mind revealing some of the new features of 3.0 to us? =P
     
  18. nemernicu

    nemernicu Junior Member

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    I have pmed to many of u that use codebreaker but it seems no one knows or doesn't want to help me setting up the codebreaker with the wp plugin to fake the referer.
    if anyone has the time to help me a little bit on this please let me know and we'll talm on im
    thanks
     
  19. lizmoz

    lizmoz Power Member

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    Sure you can use BHCB witn incentive offers.. That's the point of incentive offers, right? ... If you want to play really safe even with these, just blank the referrer and actually provide the content to users by setting the timer low enough.

    All these submits are going crazy nowadays, though... shaving like crazy and really no good way to avoid that once you start doing a bit more volume.. :/
     
  20. moonbitee

    moonbitee Junior Member

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    What about V1 buyers? we are getting BHCB V3 for free too, right?

    Cheers.