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Used domains/Expiring domains to bypass sandbox...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by clastinger, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. clastinger

    clastinger Newbie

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    I'm trying to avoid the sandbox by getting an existing domain or a soon to expire domain and building a site on it for Parts and etc. I wanted some thoughts from different people regarding this.

    "Buy out old domains?Even if a domain is low on inbound links, the age factor will almost certainly be enough for it to have expired the sandbox; typically a year is good age to ensure a domain is sandbox free; if possible negotiate with original owner keeping the WHOIS record as similar as possible to prevent triggering a fresh sandbox cycle. Domains never indexed in Google, no matter what how early registration date aren?t likely to avoid being sandboxed."



    So i was thinking i could find an existing domain or a soon to expire domain and contact the original owner and see about purchasing the domain from them.

    in the article i linked he said something about keeping the whois record as similar as possible to prevent triggering.

    I'm guessing i would have to try and keep the same nameserver by registering at same location as the original owner then transferring it to me.

    what else can i keep the same with out risking getting the domain stolen?

    --administrative Name? since it's just a name

    --technical contact Name? since it's just a name

    --address? can keep same for awhile and maybe change later on down the road?

    --emails? will probly have to change

    below is an example whois that i would consider
    "
    Domain Name: PARTS4U[dot]COM
    Registrar: NETFIRMS, INC.
    Whois Server: whois.netfirms[dot]com
    Referral URL: netfirms
    Name Server: MAG1.MAGMACOM[dot]COM
    Name Server: MAG2.MAGMACOM[dot]COM
    Status: ok
    Updated Date: 30-mar-2010
    Creation Date: 29-mar-2001
    Expiration Date: 29-mar-2011


    Registrant:

    Shabsove, Charles
    56 Aldridge Way
    Ottawa, ON K2G 4H8
    CA

    Domain name: parts4u[dot]com

    Administrative Contact:
    chuck(AT)bbqing[dot]com
    Shabsove, Charles
    56 Aldridge Way
    Ottawa, ON K2G 4H8
    CA
    +1.6132280009 Fax:

    Technical Contact:
    chuck(AT)bbqing[dot]com
    Shabsove, Charles
    56 Aldridge Way
    Ottawa, ON K2G 4H8
    CA
    +1.6132280009 Fax:

    Registrar of Record: Netfirms Inc.
    Record expires on 2011-03-29.
    Record created on 2008-07-10.
    Database last updated on 2010-06-28 13:03:38.

    Registry Status: ok
    "

    Also i'm curious if any one else has had success with doing this or not?


    [yes i've changed the urls a bit and the email a bit due to forum limits since i'm new i can't post urls or emails]
     
  2. clastinger

    clastinger Newbie

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    did i post this in the wrong section? i figured this would be the section of the forum.. Either that or clearly not many people know the answer to this question..
     
  3. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    A year is a little long unless you are looking to hammer out several hundred thousand backlinks in no time at all.

    It is a common time though - but mostly becasue people by domain for a year at a time - and some are abandoned after one year.

    Think more in terms of 3 - 6 months.
    However, if the previous owner did NOTHING! then go more 6 months.
    AS for "Whois" the only thing you nhave to change is the address -and people move house - google know this.

    However, if they have registered the domain with Googles webmaster tools - you might run into problems.

    THat's what you want to find out. Otherwise Google may well suss you out.

    Good luck

    Scritty
     
  4. ea1thy

    ea1thy Newbie

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    Why are you so afraid of getting sandboxed with newly registered domain name? Do you plan to fill it with shit content?
     
  5. older_guy

    older_guy Newbie

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    I have bought number of expired domains and changed whois and never saw them get sandboxed. Not sure that is an issue.
     
  6. clastinger

    clastinger Newbie

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    not at all, plan to go top of the line with CMS and cart system.

    just changing the names in the cart system and CMS is a pain in the ass, that if i fully build out the CMS and the cart system i want to ensure i don't have to have it sit stale for 6 months.

    I'm going with magento cart system and have setup drop ship with vender already. Just need to get site done and get ranking up, with out getting sandboxed.

    I am affraid of getting sandboxed because i was going to do some backlinking from high pr sites with senuke and manually.
     
  7. clastinger

    clastinger Newbie

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    I guess my point is i want a way to buy a domain that has been previously owned and is still active and then have it transfered to me, keep as much information the same as possible to not reset the "aged domain" sandbox bypass.

    I was thinking of none expired domains, because i know if a domain expires the aged domain resets. I would find an active domain that is not being developed on.