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Uploading A Lot Of Content Before Google Indexes

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by qwreck, May 13, 2011.

  1. qwreck

    qwreck Newbie

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    I'm wondering if i should create a wordpress blog and then block G from viewing it. After that I'd upload a lot of content. Then, I'd allow G to view my blog and index all the content. The goal would be to "jump start" the number of pages that can be indexed before G ever visits my site.

    Please let me know if this will work.

    Thanks.
     
  2. qwreck

    qwreck Newbie

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    well this is for a new site. Instead of gradually rolling out content over a slow period of time, it would allow me to get a lot of pages indexed quickly.

    it would look as if i had just uploaded a full site and submitted it to G for the first time. I'd you an auto b10g to pull in like 1,000 posts and then submit it to G. then id just post a few updates each day and see if the 1,000 posts get indexed.
     
  3. efwebs

    efwebs Regular Member

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    I think google would rather see you updating content over time. that is both more natural and shows more dedication than throwing up a ton of pages at once.
     
  4. qwreck

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    I think im not explaining my self well here. Let me try again. Here is my plan:

    1. create a new blog.
    2. Block G
    3. Upload 1,000 posts
    4. Unblock G and submit site to be indexed
    5. Naturally continue to post content over time.

    Instead of launching my site and only have a few pages of content for the spiders to crawl on their first visit, i'd be giving them lots of content to crawl and index. The more content there is when they arrive for the first time, the higher chance that it will be indexed, right?
     
  5. KingCrab

    KingCrab Regular Member

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    It is best to post slowly from the beginning. Since you already have alot of posts than queue them to post into your blog or site overtime. Indexing is easy, jsut build some backlinks and ping your page will get it index even within a few hours.
     
  6. efwebs

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    my sites usually get indexed with just a default "hello world" post. if its a new domain, I wouldn't be concerned about getting indexed. it happens within a few days easily.

    some backlink sites have problems because they are content farms, and google knows it. but a new site would be legit until you start breaking the rules.
     
  7. qwreck

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    the issue is not about getting indexed, its about getting more pages indexed the first time G crawls....
     
  8. Arche

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    Why do you feel the first crawl is the of the utmost importance?

    I would think G recording that they're not supposed to crawl your site could be worse for you than not seeing all your posts on the first pass. I'm pretty sure they'll crawl your site again... A brand new blog with 1000 posts looks just as fishy to me whether they were posted shortly before or after they've indexed you. But then I didn't write the algos, so who knows.

    If you're really worried, why not just build it all on your local box and then upload the tables and everything in one go...
     
  9. Vincent88

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    Thx for the tips :)
     
  10. flx89

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    why would you do that? let google see the articles as soon as you add them.
     
  11. qwreck

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    In regards to G having an issue with recoding that they are not suppose to crawl, this is not an issue. I know developers who block G from viewing their site until it is ready to launch all the time. They have no issues getting indexed. I personally have blocked G myself several times when I was developing a site and then unblocked and had no issues.

    Anyways, your suggestion of uploading all the content at once makes sense. It was essentially what I was trying to communicate.

    The thought process being that when G comes to my site for the first time, it is going to index as much content as possible. G will only spend a set amount of time on your site indexing content before it moves onto the next one. (Your site load speed will determine how many pages get indexed.) Lets look at 2 examples. A site that G is visiting for the first time with 5 pages or a site that G is visiting for the first time with 500 pages.

    The max number of pages you could have indexed on the first example is 5, but the max on the 2nd is 500. Now I'm not saying that G is def going to index 500 pages but at least there is the possibility. But if you only have 5 pages on your site the first time G indexes you, then you are stuck at max pages being indexed the first time at 5 pages...

    The issue about getting the content up before G indexes the first time is because it wont look natural if G indexes your site the first time and sees that there are only 5 pages, and then the next time only a day or so later, it sees 500.

    For those of you that didn't know, the more pages you have indexed in G the more traffic you will get to your site from G. Its a simple numbers game...

    5 pages in G at 5 clicks per page / day = 25 page views
    500 pages in G at 5 clicks per page / day = 2,500 page views

    So in conclusion my theory is that if I can jump start the number of pages that I can get indexed into G on the first go, it would give me a head start. If i'm adding content at a rate of 10 blog posts per day that means the max number of pages I could get indexed into G in one month is 300. So referencing the 2 examples above at the end of month 1, I can either have a max of 305 pages in G or 800 pages.

    I'll take the 800... lol
     
  12. efwebs

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    The only people that understand how Google works is Google. You are making a lot of assumptions on how they crawl sites that I don't think are based on anything.

    Of course, the other ideas on here are assumptions as well, so if you want to trust yours more than anyone elses, then knock yourself out.

    Personally, I don't think Google limits how many pages they will index. If you submit an RSS feed that has links to every page, then Google is going to crawl all of them because each one is a separate link that it's been told to crawl. If google has a reason to think people will like what it finds when it crawls, it will index your site.

    As far as the benefits of multiple pages, having a few quality pages can easily bring you more traffic than a bunch of bad pages. Yes, having more pages has the benefit of more content to view, but you also lose the bonus that I think sites get for having consistently updated content (but that is my assumption that is open to debate).

    So in my opinion, you might have more pages, but they are going to be worth less to google, and quality is usually better than quantity if you expect google to rank your pages.
     
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    Google dosn't limit number of pages it will index, but it does limit the time it spends on your site each visit. This is why reducing page load times will increase the number of pages crawled per visit.

    Additionally people seem to be missing the point here.... The point is not to just upload a site with 500 pages and then quit, the point is to upload a site with 500 pages and then continue to post content at a steady pace randomly. Please keep in mind that I'm talking about an au10 blg.