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Unnatural Link Message and Ranking Results of Sites

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by hangtenhosting, Apr 5, 2012.

  1. hangtenhosting

    hangtenhosting Registered Member

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    I know there are a few threads but tough to go through everything. BUT here are some things I noticed and I would like to see what other people noticed.

    I had many sites in ALN and got mixed ranking after all the deindexing. Got Google Unnatural link message on all sites.

    Site 1: Good backlinks before ALN and while I was doing ALN I was also doing other linking.

    Result after ALN deindexing decrease serps by 4 spots.

    Site 2: decent links to site before ALN. No linking while using ALN. Site dropped 20 spots.

    Site 3: NO backling to site other than ALN posts. Site dropped like a rock after deindexing of ALN.

    I personally do not believe Google enforced any PENALITIES because of the UNNATURAL Link message. I believe drop in rankings were associated with not only Negative link velocity but also the loss of high PR links.

    I have had sites in the past that I have added quality PR5 and Pr6 links to and then see them rise in SERPS but as soon as I took them away the sites would drop in a week or so back to old positions.

    Does anyone think they have proof that penalities were enforced or just guesses?

    Now if there are penalities for the unnatural links then ALN should stay alive and convert itself to a negative SEO blog network! I guarantee you if this was to occur then there would definitely be NO Penalties (if there were any to begin with)

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks
     
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  2. Sophomoric

    Sophomoric Junior Member

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    My philosophy has always been to continue spamming with sufficient link diversity. Deindex and come out of it ontop ;)
     
  3. araqueli

    araqueli Power Member

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    after desindexing the blogs which linked to your website,it is like they have never existed, so yes, you will drop many spots :(
     
  4. SuperLinks

    SuperLinks Elite Member

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    Someone that fucking gets it! +REP

    Google is doing exactly what you are thinking, devaluing the links as a result of the websites being DEINDEXED. That, with a combination of the over-optimization link analysis algorithm, and you've got a combination of bad news. People think that they've been severely penalized as a result of the links. Instead, the links have become complete worthless and the backlink profile disappears. And, Google's been proactive about continuing to deindex services like ALN, which continues to reenforce the issue of backlinks disappearing.

    Think of it from an algorithmic standpoint. Google cannot manually police the internet, they simply don't have the manpower to do that. Therefore, 99% of the time its the algorithm changes that are affecting the SERPs.
     
  5. crzyyoungn

    crzyyoungn Registered Member

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    Exactly that's what I've saying over and over again. But ain't it fun watching everyone scurry around like rats?
     
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  6. jdwurn

    jdwurn Registered Member

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    This is not correct. I have definitely experienced a penalty that is more than just devalued links.

    I used to rank on page 3 for a very highly competitive keyword. I built a lot of blogroll links for this keyword and got up to position 11. Then I got the unnatural link letter and my website dropped out of the top 1000. The penalty almost certianly was the result of over-optimized sitewide links. This is not just devalued links. It is most definitely a penalty.
     
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  7. SuperLinks

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    And it's working.... You are getting novice SEO's freaking out, and guess what they are doing? Exactly what Google want's them to do. Cancelling all link building services, begging and pleading to have them "back in the mix" without the penalty.

    Falling right into the trap that Google set, bait and hook.