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Unbelievable Fiverr Scam

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by cjmo75, Aug 30, 2010.

  1. cjmo75

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    Wow! I can't believe what this guy on Fiverr is doing!

    He has a Gig set up that offers all kinds of copyrighted Clickbank products for $5.

    I thought it was a bunch of MRR products so I ordered it. He sends me a message saying that I have to go to his website and order it. When I get to the website, the price is $27!

    Furthermore, the product is nothing more than an ebook that contains download links to all of thes epremium copyrighted Clickbank products!

    This is totally outrageous!

    Now, I'm all for sharing downloads on BHW, etc. But what this guy is doing is totally outrageous.

    It's a total scam and I just had to get some of your opinions on it.

    Make sure you read the disclaimer on the bottom of the web page. He actually thinks that is going to protect him!

    This IS totally wrong, isn't it?

    Gig:
    http://www.fiverr.com/users/alex146/gigs/give-you-total-42-clickbank-paid-products

    Web Page:
    http://imblackbook1.iblogger.org/
     
  2. ExtraWinner

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    Well you just killed somebodys niche ^^

    Now the question is - was that BHW memeber?? :p
     
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    Took the words right out of my mouth.
     
  4. cjmo75

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    Excuse me? "Killed somebody's niche." You can't be serious. Collecting a bunch of download links from copyrighted products and making them into an ebook and then selling them for $27 is NOT a niche. It's just plain dumb.

    I seriously doubt that it was a BHW member, because a BHW member wouldn't be that stupid.

    Look, I enjoy the downloads section here just as much as the next guy, but going too far is going too far.

    Think of the people he sells to. What if you were just some newbie who thought he came across a great deal and bought that product, then found yourself in a world of trouble because you didn't protect yourself before visiting the download pages?

    Would you be happy then?

    Remember, we wre all newbies at one point, and this is totally not right.

    Sorry, but I speak up when I think something is wrong, whether others like it or not.
     
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  5. topsytips

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    Ok, the Fiverr gig is misleading.

    What happens if you use the Order Now button? Would you only pay a fiver?

    I think the guy's biggest mistake with all of this is using PayPal to be honest. I think his account may become limited pretty quick.
     
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    cjmo75 BANNED BANNED

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    Oh, that's another thing. If you click the order button, the "Fiverr" becomes $27.

    That in itself will piss people off enough to run to the product vendors.
     
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    I wonder how long is he going to survive doing this.
     
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    i just want to lol this
     
  9. cjmo75

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    I know it seems funny, but it's actually very dangerous, unless he had made himself completely anonymous.

    But how do you get around Paypal?

    Actually, I somewhat admire the guy. He's got a helluva lot more balls than I do!

    Really, the only real problem I have with it is that it can harm others. He even made an ecover box for the product, so it appears that people are actually buying his product that just so happens to come with all of the others.

    That leads a person to think that it's perfectly fine to just access all of those downloads like they are supposed to be doing it, when in all actuality, they aren't.
     
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    To be honest, I think the sheer volume of products he's listing in his ad is going to trigger a lot of alarm bells.

    The interesting point, for me at least, is that I'm not sure if what he's doing is strictly illegal. He's only supplying links to the product download pages and is not actually selling copyrighted material.

    There are quite a few membership type sites that do the same sort of thing.

    It would be interesting to know where the downloads are being hosted as that's probably where any breach lies.

    I can't believe the guy's nerve to be honest...it made me smile!!
     
  11. cjmo75

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    If you read his disclaimer, he says that he's selling you an ebook with links to all of the downloads and that it's on you if you decide to access the copyrighted products.

    Still, it can't be legal. As far as the membership sites go, I've never seen one that offers links to products like that unless they have a partnership with the product vendor and are authorized to do so.

    I'm curious to know the legality of it myself.

    Another reason why I believe it's illegal is because he is selling the links. If he were giving them away, it might be a different story.

    I'm also surprised nobody has reported him to Fiverr yet because he is basically making side deals outside of Fiverr.
     
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    Scam, Why not u complaint to fiverr for this activity and give him bad review that will alert other users too!!
     
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    No, that's not really my thing man. I just thought it was crazy that's why I discussed it here, but I'm not going to go "tattle" on the guy. I'm sure somebody else already has, unless he just started doing it.
     
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  14. ssellers

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    As long as this isn't a BHW doing this, which I pretty much know it isn't, I have a couple things to say?

    You said this was "plain dumb" ... well, if he gets ONE buyer, then no, it's not.

    Also, it's called Black Hat for a reason, not all of what we do is considered "ethical".

    The buyers are the ones that need to make sure everything is legit, the sellers aren't.

    That is just my input.


    Oh, and yes you did murder a niche.


    Let him do what he is doing, just don't fall for it.
     
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  15. PayMe

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    People spend way to much time hating on how others making money when they should be focusing on their own bank accounts =)
     
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    I'm not going to stop him from doing what he's doing, and the staement about buyers making sure everything is legit is totally wrong. Maybe you aren't aware of all the recent FTC rulings that prohibit forms of false advertisement.

    I completely understand that all forms of Black Hat aren't totally ethical, but this is beyond the realm of being unethical.

    As far as it not being dumb, if you think that taking this kind of risk to make a few $27 sales isn't dumb, then Id love to see what you do to make money online.

    As far as this being a niche, what niche would it be? And how did I "kill" it?

    Oh yeah, posting it here is much worse than pasting it all over Fiverr like the seller did, right?
     
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    ANother thing is that alot of that software (KWElite, MSamauri etc) is tied to a license server that needs a "license" number to activate. If he's just giving out the download links in the ebook, the software probably isn't going to work. Obviously that downloaded software is not cracked/nulled so people can use it.

    The people paying for this won't be getting their "moneys" worth! LOL

    I also don't think his PP account will last too long either.

    RM
     
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    That is not at all what I was getting at.
    I understand what he is doing is "wrong", I do see that.
    But hey, if he wants to make his money like that, so be it, let him suffer the consequences IF there are any.

    But to make this short and sweet, if there was a way (I know there isn't :D) that you "trick" someone into putting $1M into your PP account and they THINK they are paying $5, tell me you wouldn't do it? If the risk doesn't outweigh the reward (losing a Fiverr account, and possibly a PP account) then hell, go for it.

    Wasn't trying to argue, just saying ... let people try what they want, it's no more "wrong" then the next person.
     
  19. cjmo75

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    Honestly? No, I wouldn't trick someone into putting one million dollars into my bank account by telling them they were paying $5.

    Maybe it's just me, but I belive in making money online the old fashioned way - by providing a great product or service and charging a reasonable price.

    I'm not saying I don't use Black Hat. I do, but just for driving traffic only.

    I would never, ever bilk anybody or set anybody else to do somethig illegal without their knowledge the way this scum is doing.

    Half of those products need registartion keys to even work, and the other 25% require you to log-in with the email you purchased with and authenticate your account, so what are people getting?

    Maybe 5 or 10 of the crappiest products on that page that they still have no right to?

    Maybe I see it from a different light because I'm also a product creator, and if anyone tried to do this with one of the products I created, I'd nail them to the friggin' wall.

    I've had people give them away, and you know what - I could really care less. But to have someone make money off my hard work and my artistic property like that- HELL NO.

    I won't say report him, because I belive in karma and what goes around comes around, but I damn well won't sit by and let innocent peoploe get screwed so he can make a buck.

    If that makes me an asshole, then I'm an asshole.
     
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  20. Limelike

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    Hes not doing anything illeagl here. Its like the same as trying to sue google for indexing warez sites links. All he is doing is providing them with a ebook with links to download pages. At the end of the day if the download pages are hosted offshore he is leagl.