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Ukrainian female protesting against Euro 2012

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ShadeDream, May 24, 2012.

  1. ShadeDream

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    Hilarious the way everyone jumps onto her. They were well prepared though, they had some sort of a sheet to cover the view, so might have been staged.

    Still funny... hahaha
     
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  2. Roparadise

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    The funny thing is,that being anti-prostitution is anti-woman as well as anti-man,since you want to limit how they can make money.
     
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    @roparadise:

    I fail to find words in response to your comment, so...

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    This.
     
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    @jazzc its a feminist group protesting the Ukrainian sex tourism industry. They don't want women to be able to have sex for money,which means they want to restrict the rights of women. Yet they are supposed to be a women's rights group.
     
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    100% nonsense. It's not that I disagree with your point, it's that your point doesn't make any sense at all.

    Prostitution != womens rights. On a global scale it's largely used to marginalize women, especially if you factor in the widespread sex/human trafficking violations. Whether you want to acknowledge it as pervasive or not is irrelevant, but don't try to sell it as harmless. Not everything in a free market is positive (see anti-trust or cartel laws), nothing is that black and white.
     
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    Yea, this is famous Ukranian group of girls who show tits in public to protest anything, just about f***ing anything. You can find more by googling "femen". Try G images search as well.
    Their LJ: femen dot livejournal dot com
    One of patients: lurkmore dot so/images/5/57/Fuck_me.jpg
     
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    Prostitution is used to marginalize women because it's illegal.
    People get trafficked around and violent crime happens because it's illegal.
    There is a stigma because it's illegal.
    ^ None of these problems are inherent in prostitution

    Organized crime exploded in the US during prohibition, when alcohol is illegal. There is currently the same type of issue going on with other substances currently illegal which just goes to show that prohibiting something doesn't stop it, it makes people crazy and desperate enough to do anything to get it.

    If you set up a taxable system for "women of the night" and a system of licensing that proves being free of disease, being free of coercion to do this kind of work, being free of having committed serious crime, and being of stable and healthy mind as well as being ethical to carry out this...profession...then there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Why? Because if they choose to do it, it is their choice and just like anyone picking any line of work, the rest of us have no say in it.

    Take modern dating for an example. Take a girl out, buy her flowers beforehand maybe, buy dinner, buy drinks, if you go to a movie of course you're buying both tickets. You buy nice clothes and make sure your car is spiffy...Why? To get her interested. Do not think that regular dating is innocent and without ulterior motives. We treat women like prostitutes all the time, and they accept it.

    Ideally, there would never be a condition where a girl has to have sex for money...But in that ideal world, it might also be vogue and trendy to have sex for money as it's taboo...Just like it's trendy for a girl to be a slut and look like a whore now, but you can't treat her or call her that because she defends her right to dress and act how she wants...So we pretend they're nice and sweet and seduce them and then they become our whores.

    Prostitution is not any more harmful or wrong or perverted than courtship.
     
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    Why is everyone assuming only prostitutes are women,and only guys pay for dates,and that only girls dress "slutty" ?
     
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    For God's sake, trafficking means involuntarily prostitution. It means they make you a slave and force you to have sex. And you want to make that legal?
     
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    He's one of those blind libertarians that believes the only reason we have problems in the world is because things are illegal. What he doesn't get is that laws are the prescription for these kinds of problems.

    I don't deplore sex trafficking because they're breaking the law, I deplore it because it's fucking sick and morally reprehensible. If your idea of free market involves slavery then your free market isn't free.
     
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    When did he say he supported sex slavery? He said prostitution should be legal for those that want to have sex for money.
     
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    She may think she did something smart... Bitch...
     
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    It's almost, like, there are causal relationships in the real world. Like there are side effects to our desires that we, collectively as a culture, have decided place too high of costs on those who are unable to protect themselves so we do not allow it to happen.

    Heroin is illegal because of the detriment effect it has on society. Prostitution is illegal because of the detriment effect it has on society. Your premise is that it doesn't have a detrimental effect, to which I'll recommend that you put away your game of candyland and join us here in the real world where ideologues aren't pragmatic.
     
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    No no no, I'm saying there is that kind of trafficking because it's illegal.

    If working girls are licensed, their whereabouts will also be tracked in a sense.

    If people could get their rocks off whenever they wanted by hiring a girl, they wouldn't build up perversions which lead to requiring poor 13 year old girls/boys. There also wouldn't be a large supply or incentive to trade people, usually young, at a premium.

    There will always be criminals and perverts and that dark type of trade, but it would not be nearly as widespread. If it was regulated, systems could be placed where young girls wouldn't be allowed to be prostitutes because they couldn't get a license. It might even create intense competition. To play the devil's advocate and outline a potential problem with legalizing prostitution is that the girls might be killed in order to reduce the amount of girls that work and increase revenue for the pimp.

    I generally don't condone the slave trade, ya know? lol come on man, I may be a fool but I'm not heinous.
     
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    How is society being ruined if I decide to go have sex with a guy or a woman for money?
     
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    Why are people labeling me this and that?

    No modern society with regulated drugs or sex trade has had a negative experience with it.

    Dude...Europe. I'm pretty sure no one is going crazy in Amsterdam, and I'm pretty sure Portugal and the rest of them are dealing with their drug issues just fine. There are also free methadone clinics in California where you can, you know, do things.

    These places have reduced addiction rates and crime rates involving these vices because it becomes normal place, just like by introducing condoms and sex education earlier prepares kids. If it's in hiding and illegal, but for some reason very simple to get, it's got that added mystique to it which creates addicts and a black market climate.

    Heroin is illegal because oxycontin has a higher profit margin.

    I'm not a Libertarian. I just know you don't know better for me than I do. I'm Tyrannical over myself because I know I'm disciplined enough to not label other people or go out of my way to harm or belittle them.
     
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    Again, you aren't grounding anything you're saying in real life. You make stupid correlations between condoms and heroin and try to use Amsterdam as a signal for legalizing drugs WHEN HEROIN IS ILLEGAL THERE TOO.

    Are you also going to make the claim that sex trafficking isn't a problem in Europe? Go ahead and slam your face into your keyboard, it'll safe you some time. And stop being so damn insufferable about labels, everyone gets labelled and it's unquestionably less harmful than legalizing prostitution.
     
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    She did a great job in my opinion.Soccer isnt the same like 20 years ago as i played myself in the 3rd league.Its totaly diffrent.I stopped watching a long time ago and watching at todays fans makes me just mad how stupid people can be.

    There is only one sentence which can explain it "bread und games" and as always something big will happen/change which wont be noticed by the mass as only soccer counts during that time.
     
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    Hmm...

     
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