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Two Weeks In: A n00bs tale of life in the forest of Blackhat

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mentalist, May 8, 2008.

  1. mentalist

    mentalist Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well, I'm taking a chocolate milk break. (I'm not 5, I'm 24, but it's damn good.) and I thought I would post a topic on my progress or lack of it in the past two weeks.


    Well, I started looking at making money on the net all those 2 weeks ago -not long I know- due to necessity. I'm an English kid living on a Greek island (long story) and my pitiful command of the Greek language has not helped me in all areas. I have fantastic friends, and a gorgeous girlfriend but job opportunities on this veritable paradise are not so forthcoming. Not even for the natives. I guess if they were then everyone would live here and nobody would toil away all year on the mainland.

    I left it too late basically. I relied on money I had saved and a few odd jobs to get me through two summers here but I really started struggling and getting pretty damn worried about my prospects in the long term (which quickly turned in to the short term) and then really started freaking as my bank balance dwindled down into the 3 figures.

    With desperation giving me a forceful nudge I decided to become pro-active and eventually found myself here. And what a place it is.

    First up I really think that had I not found this forum I would not have the motivation and the belief that you really can make it and make it good in the world of Internet money making.


    That said I think I have banked 20 dollars through PPI; and Luxcash wiped my stats back down to zero along with everyone elses a few days ago. (We're assured things will be rectified!) so success is still an intangible object hovering in front of me at the moment.

    Even with my lack of actual banked $'s I am not deterred just yet but I am pretty tired.

    I have read extensively. Tons and tons of threads here going all the way back to the beginning and have downloaded E-books and watched walkthrough videos and scoped other forums and blogs with money making ideas and tuts all the while trying not to burn out or overstretch myself. I know there is a very real trap of reading and not doing. That said I believe that the education has been invaluable. I am a total newb still and expect I will be for some time but compared to two weeks ago I really feel like I'm getting a grasp of things. The terminology the methods and the way things work. I see it as time well spent.

    I've had a go at making money through Youtube by trying to get traffic to hclicks but after a solid day of 10 hours setting up I banked 15c before having the account unceremoniously deleted. Along with my other personal account that I've had for over two years. Boo.

    I have had a go at PPI and got frustrated with my 30kb upload speeds and my stats being wiped (but I'm sure it will be fine! No conspiracy's!)

    I have tried marketing affiliate products on craigslist but quickly realized that it is nigh on impossible to get anywhere with it given the CL policebots. Hell, I couldn't even get one post up even after reading all the tips and tricks!

    I have spent time thinking about how I will start flipping websites once I actually have bank from some other method and I have also thought about what sort of sites I will make with my zero ability at site building when I can even afford $7 to register a domain. (Yes, money issues are that dire. Hell, I managed to get a loan from a friend in the UK at the last minute today so I could pay my rent and bills and still have enough to eat for another month.)


    I have felt super motivated at times and convinced that I will be well off soon and it's only a matter of time before I am perusing Rolex's and sorry for myself at others and convinced that I am doomed to abject poverty FOREVER.

    You could say that it has been an eventful week.

    I have never once felt like giving up though.


    I'm still looking for that magical tactic that will work for me that I can run with. I know it's a silly way to think but hell, I'm a n00b. It's the way our little minds work, damnit!

    The reason I made this thread is just to get it all out there. For myself more than anything. And for vets and n00bs to read alike. I know I always like reading about others progress.

    So I will be updating this thread as I go on at least to the point I make it or become so broke that they cut my internet off and throw me on the street. Ha!

    One thing I would like to say though is thanks to everyone who has contributed to my learning progress. Whether you knew you did or not. There are way too many to list. I feel motivated and positive every time I log on here. BHW has pretty much got a permanent tab in my browser.

    You'd never expect such a nefarious bunch to have such community spirit! But I guess we're all in it for the same reasons, eh.

    I am going to keep at it, that's for sure. I'm not really sure what the next thing I'm going to try is. But I'm sure I'll think of something. Or more likely try something someone else has thought up and been kind enough to share on here.


    Wish me luck and stay tuned.
     
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  2. Pofecker

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    Very well written! Best of luck to you and I hope you can find something that makes you the cash you so desperately need right now. I look forward to your future updates and applaud your 'never give up' attitude. I'm a n00b myself, but after a few months the cash and ideas I've accumulated from this board are starting to roll in.
     
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    Hey I want him on my team :)
     
  4. oldenstylehats

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    That was a nice read mentalist. Keep at it! I'll definitely be checking up on this thread to keep tabs on your progress.

    If you have any questions about WH methods, don't be afraid to PM me.

    Regards,
    OSH
     
  5. mindseye

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    Comes over well! Gotta feeling you'll be just fine.. ;)
     
  6. AnImALmoTheR

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    Greece is nice, been there three times, Corfu, Zachyntos and that place with the big turtles.. maybe it was Skopelos hmmm can't remember. well what I was going to say is that, as you probably know, it high season over there right now, get a simple bar job during the night and spend the other time in front of the screen.. you really need to get something that will feed you and that pays the rent... it don't need to be something fancy, just a few bucks and a gyro ;) it will take the knife from your throat and make it much easier to concentrate..

    Good Luck!
     
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    You should try article marketing since you write so well :)
     
  8. mentalist

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    Thanks for the comments guys. Tomorrow is another day and another opportunity so I will make sure to keep this post updated.
     
  9. designer

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    Agreed!

    The title pulled me in as a person with respect towards conceptual thinking.

    Well, done.

    Keep on the path. As the others have reiterated you'll do just fine.

    Creative Writing may be a path to go as well as article marketing.

    Best of luck ;)
     
  10. whatsup

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    Good luck!
     
  11. acsitesupport

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    very nice read.. its easy to get hopes up and fall into traps at first. keep at it and if you need anything..there are always people here to help out....and always more people to tell you go read. hehe well either way dont read too much... every hour u spend reading spend 2 doing!
     
  12. mentalist

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    Well, today has not been productive at all really. I had some other stuff to do today so I wasn't able to get in front of the screen until only an hour ago. All I've done since then is read the forum and download another E-Book on domaining.

    I found out that I will be able to muster up 100 Euros in a week or so and am thinking about how best to invest the money. Domaining is looking like the probable investment direction.


    I have also been waiting to start Tjlight's project but he seems to have hit a few road blocks and I haven't had word from him back yet despite being accepted into the program. Which is completely understandable since he has other things to deal with including a bunch of morons who think he is a scammer because he didn't reply to them fast enough. Some people really take the cake.


    Ultimately I have been stuck for what to try next. Getting the ball rolling on any sort of project seems to be a problem for me and now I feel like I'm back at square one with no discernible direction to follow.


    It's Friday night tonight so I'm going out for a drink with some friends that I really, really can't afford but really, really need. :D

    So for now I will continue to search for the next stepping stone and hope I don't get too wet again!


    Stay tuned.
     
  13. enovator

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    Never ever loss your heart and keep it up.

    I am sure you have everything what it takes to be successful online!

    Good Luck to you!
     
  14. mtime88

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    If you need fast money I recommend selling ebooks or other digital items on ebay.
     
  15. dddd

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    my friend, I have to be straight: if you go partying, you won't make it far.... why don't you just get your ass of the couch and start writing some articles? you can easily sell them or use them to make affiliate cash (in your situation selling would be the best to get fast cash) - try rentacoder, elance and co.

    now good luck and I'm sure you don't mind my kick ;)
     
  16. Alindria

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    I guess you missed the big memo. Ebay doesn't allow the selling of digital goods like ebooks anymore.
     
  17. Alindria

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    I agree. Article marketing can mean relatively quick money. Maybe not thousands, but a bit here and there that helps a LOT.

    Also, you might check out Niche Marketing on Crack. I hear people have made a few hundred with it in a month or less.
     
  18. mentalist

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    I really went at doing something productive today. Using the Joel Method that another member was kind enough to find for me I had a go at making my first blog. I went for the marriage angle to start with and churned this out in a couple of hours:

    http://savingthemarriage.blogspot.com/


    It's pretty loaded with affiliate links but I made sure to write some original copy that might actually be useful as well. Now I need to go and promote it on Google Groups. Any other places to promote or tips on getting traffic or the like are most welcome.

    Suggestions and critique always are.

    I will of course update on whether I actually convert anything as well.

    If it goes well I will make a few more and scale up. Let's hope.
     
  19. mentalist

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    I feel more motivated now I have something out of the gate. It's a start at least. Now to wait for those conversions!


    Does anybody know of a similar popular service like Google Groups?
     
  20. mindseye

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    You can say that again...


    Clean blog mentalist..

    I like the saving the marriage thing - then look to the right you see the live traffic feed and see - blackhatworld - blackhatworld - blackhatworld.. lol.. struck me as kinda funny..


    Now, let's see those other 200 blogs get kicked out and linked up.. ;)