Twitter Phone Re-verification Wave

DavisRand said:

Some of my accounts on russian mails survived and still able to follow 600-700 without triggering sms verification.

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Well then, it's not the email provider or not just that. It's rather the ips which were used to create the accs and/or the phone numbers.

dkv023 said:

Man I disagree with you! I think problem is in age! Because I have oldest accounts (1year) and they works fine without any sms verificat. They have only russian e-mail providers

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You are free to do that.

The Russian email providers became suspicious, because that's what most cheap PVA providers use. This is what you can see easily or it's provided when you got the accs from the provider, but you don't get the ip address, you need to dig that up for yourself. So the email providers can easily be blamed, but as you can see on your own example, it's not the Russian email providers. Frankly they can't really lock/ban every mail.ru acc, because plenty of Russians use those addresses for legit purposes.

Account age matters to an extent, but that alone won't cause your accs getting blocked. All my accs are just a few months old and i follow/unfollow 1k-1k per day with each without any issue.

From what i can gather, there are very different cases. Some people uses bots (FL, MP etc), others don't. Some people were following with the accs, others don't. Yadda, yadda.

This ban/lock wave has nothing to do with user actions, those can be the trigger, but the issue is with the accs themselves, ips, phone numbers, email providers or the combination of these.
Most people use the same PVA providers or the cheapest ones, it was bound to happen. There are only a few bigger account providers, all the others are just resellers. Twitter must have been cracking down on some of the bigger ones like buyaccs and it's just a matter of luck which acc survives, which isn't depending on which ips/phone numbers got blacklisted by Twitter and which aren't. This explains how 50% of your accs survives and the other 50% is gone, meanwhile you were doing the same with all of them and they're from the same batch, same age etc.

By the way I bought old not working acc from buyaccs and I`ve got what that guy

DavisRand said:

Hey guys!
I bought some aged twitter accounts (1.5-2 years) and when i try to follow users they don't get notification that my account followed them.
Is it some kinda new defense system from twitter? And is it permanent, or temporary ghost ban for my accounts?

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It is a sad that my users doesn`t get notification that I followed them :-( I don`t know if it issue with accounts or twitter filter!

Hello,

Do you have any accs which survived and were verified with a Russian email provider? If no, then the email provider got blacklisted. If you have alive accs out of those, then it's an ip and/or phone number issue.

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Some of my accounts with a russian email provider survived. Not the majority.

For the IPs, I didn't know. I will check.

living2xl said:

You can verify your accounts by using a fake phone number on site.
There are some sites that provides you optioons to verify accounts by using phone numbers and get codes on that sites. You must have to search on Google for these sites.

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Very interesting. Have you had much luck with this?

The issue is more complex then pointing one thing as the main reason for the SMS ban.

I have losses, almost 70% of my twitter acc for CPA are gone (sms re-verification) and 17 from my 100 that I was running my journey.

I was looking for pattern becouse there is no pattern and if you guys are trying to figure out what you need to change to make it better then have a good luck you will loose your sanity.

I have acc that I use for cpa and they survived and still spamming with no single SMS request.


I will tell you what is NOT the problem:

-Proxy
-Age
-Settings (FL or whatever bot you are using)


I think parts of problem are:
-the acc origin (the proxy on which the acc was created)
-dead mail (usually .ru mails or most of the shitty one will get suspended and twitter can notice that)
-phone verification source.

And probably other factors but I think this 3 are the biggest.

I still follow like 700 with my original first 22 accounts an non of them are phone verify or I was asked to phone verify them.

My advice is to move on if you are into spamming find a better source and hope your acc will survive or how much of them will survive.
If you are into growing your acc like I am for my adsense site then create them your self with real IPs. I know its pain in the ass but it will worth the effort for the long run.

Interesting I am seeing a increasing in earnings never the less I have 17 acc SMS banned. I think its because there are less spamming acc in the moment and my tweets are more visible...but I am not sure maybe its just a fluke.

wizard04 said:

I think parts of problem are:
-the acc origin (the proxy on which the acc was created)

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I think this is not a problem at all. I have 76 accs create by myslef on my proxy that i use 3 months without break. All that accs get sms verification.
I have another accs that i bought and they all still alive.
In my opinion this is fault of FL.

vpeersz said:

I think this is not a problem at all. I have 76 accs create by myslef on my proxy that i use 3 months without break. All that accs get sms verification.
I have another accs that i bought and they all still alive.
In my opinion this is fault of FL.

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So tell me how is not a red flag creating a 76 acc with one proxy and probably using them for the same purpose?
...and as I said its not just one factor, you might get one right and fuck up on 10 others.

Not one proxy...
Maybe i wrote wrong. I have 2-3 account per proxy.
I just see that your factor didint matched to my experience.
I try to figure out where is the problem just like you

vpeersz said:

Not one proxy...
Maybe i wrote wrong. I have 2-3 account per proxy.
I just see that your factor didint matched to my experience.
I try to figure out where is the problem just like you

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I know we are all trying to figure it out...but how can you be sure that your proxy was not misused used for creating of 100 or 1000s of acc before you get you hand on it? I am 99% all of the proxy we are using where previously used by someone else for mass creation of accounts, that is why virgin proxies are expensive and probably no virgin as its hard to know for sure.

Maybe you have right. But i have trust for squid proxy service. I think problem is somewhere else. Ofc i can be wrong
I will keep eye on this thread cause we must solve this.

I haven't had any problems with my FL setup lately. No SMS re-verifications and I also use pretty aggressive settings in almost all regards 800-1000 follow/unfollow, and I post a ton of tweets across all these accounts, but I've gone way out of my way to ensure there is a pretty random manner with which all this happens including using a number of tools outside my primary bot which is FL.

If and when I've had problems with FL, the auto account save feature has been productive for me in recovering accounts, but only when I've added and verified an email address, and for my own safety with these bots I only use 1 proxy per account.

Everyone's experience is different, but sharing some common best practices can definitely help most folks. In general I've had better overall success and longevity with Twitter projects by using a VERY slow and painful growth process and respecting the general limits of Twitter excessively, i.e. I've done a lot better when staying well under EVERY measurable action's general accepted frequency. Nonetheless I do find you can be a bit more aggressive with older and more established accounts, so I take my risks to make my bucks.

Hope you get to the bottom of your account locks OP, and can help others overcome any continued obstacles. Nothing sucks worse than when your cash cow dries up, so I'm hoping you get any lost inventory of accounts back online soon.

so what can of setings you use?
and what do you think that is the problem , thanks a lot

davers said:

I haven't had any problems with my FL setup lately. No SMS re-verifications and I also use pretty aggressive settings in almost all regards 800-1000 follow/unfollow, and I post a ton of tweets across all these accounts, but I've gone way out of my way to ensure there is a pretty random manner with which all this happens including using a number of tools outside my primary bot which is FL.

If and when I've had problems with FL, the auto account save feature has been productive for me in recovering accounts, but only when I've added and verified an email address, and for my own safety with these bots I only use 1 proxy per account.

Everyone's experience is different, but sharing some common best practices can definitely help most folks. In general I've had better overall success and longevity with Twitter projects by using a VERY slow and painful growth process and respecting the general limits of Twitter excessively, i.e. I've done a lot better when staying well under EVERY measurable action's general accepted frequency. Nonetheless I do find you can be a bit more aggressive with older and more established accounts, so I take my risks to make my bucks.

Hope you get to the bottom of your account locks OP, and can help others overcome any continued obstacles. Nothing sucks worse than when your cash cow dries up, so I'm hoping you get any lost inventory of accounts back online soon.

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My all accounts are made the same. Using FollowLiker but only few doesn't ask phone confirmation. I tried follow manualy from alive accounts and it still works(300+ followed)

Using .ru email. Follow/unfollow 300-350. DM 50-100. No posting. Using 5acc/proxy. 2-3 months old. Created myself with my sim cards

18 banned accounts out of my 120
had 20 from same account provider
same as Dilletante, they had russian email (rambler.ru)
the 2 which survived were paused (in a niche I gave up with)
I tried them and they could connect without any problem
so, twitter looks at some other things before asking sms verification (behavior I suppose)

edit : just found 3 other banned accounts
I created them myself with free email (tutamail) when I started this journey

wizard04 said:

I think parts of problem are:
-the acc origin (the proxy on which the acc was created)
-dead mail (usually .ru mails or most of the shitty one will get suspended and twitter can notice that)
-phone verification source.

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This

I forgot to mention it above, but wizard04 has a great point, dead emails are also a common cause of SMS lock, Twitter actively checks the email accs, even after activation and these Russian emails die pretty fast. I was using mail.ru for quite some time, not for Twitter, but something else, when mail.ru did their first big clean up 1,5-2 years ago and i lost a lot of accs at once, i stopped using it.

So yes, make sure, that the tied emails are alive.

Well, let's say it's a good lesson from twitter.

what's email service is best to use?

davers said:

Everyone's experience is different, but sharing some common best practices can definitely help most folks. In general I've had better overall success and longevity with Twitter projects by using a VERY slow and painful growth process and respecting the general limits of Twitter excessively, i.e. I've done a lot better when staying well under EVERY measurable action's general accepted frequency. Nonetheless I do find you can be a bit more aggressive with older and more established accounts, so I take my risks to make my bucks.

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Key point here, I've been using this exact same modus operandi since I started creating my twitter accounts. It has worked very well for me, treating the venture like a business and fashioning it with the idea of long term income will net you greater and more reliable profits IMO.

I'm gonna share my recent experience to help you come to your own conclusions.
Yesterday I started creating Twitter accounts. Each account is on a different dedicated proxy (I've never had problems that I could blame on the proxies I had).
All of the accounts instantly ask for Phone Verification even before you pick your username. I verified them with SMSPVA, it worked.
I profiled the accounts (picked avatar, cover photo and made a tweet or two on some). After that I just let them sit as I wanted to create them all before setting them up on Mass Planner.
Later that day I tried logging in on the accounts, 50% of them are asking me to reverify. I can't even reverify with the same number, as SMSPVA tells me the number no longer exists.

My conclusion? Twitter has realized that everyone is using russian numbers and is blocking those accounts until you reverify. Legit users have no trouble reverifying, but we do.
I can't blame the proxies, since they work for every other network. I can't really blame the act of account creation, since I did it manually. There isn't much left...

Hi Guys,
Let me bust some miths about twitter. As many of you recently 50-70% of my accounts got phone verification (7-8 of may). So....
1. Accounts Creation
1.1 E-mails. All the accounts were created manually by me using yahoo e-mails, so I don't think twitter was searching for you guys who used .ru e-mails.

1.2 Proxies. All my accounts were created on unique private proxy which after that was used to log into FL with that ip, so I don't think proxy creation is an issue since I used 1 ip/account creation.

1.3 Device. I used 4 devices to create my accounts.

1.4 Footprint. All my accounts had different content (a few images as posts(each account different images), unique description, profile picture and header) all my accounts were not related howsoever.

2. Posting, spamming, following, settings.
2.1 Settings. I runned 125 accounts for 7-8 months and all what I did was to grow them(follow/unfollow) and I didn't had same settings to all my accounts. For my surprise was that some accounts that got phone verifications didn't even follow/unfollow those days. So I don't thinks it's about the settings.

2.2 Posting. I didn't post only some different images in my accounts, so they couldn't link them together, but somehow they did.

2.3 As for the following limits and delays, as I said, 10-20 of my accounts didn't even followed/unfollowed those days, and for the proxies, many of my accounts runned for 7 months on a single private proxy without any problem on.

I hope that my experice can help you figure out how to bypass this situation.