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Tubenoia Not working an Spk ignoring Customers

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by risingstaralliance, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. risingstaralliance

    risingstaralliance Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    So I have used tubenoia for a little while, on and off. Usually when its off is because it isn't working, and Spk is fixing something. Well, for over a week now (actually 2) the mass uploader gets your accounts suspended.

    So lots of threads have been posted about it on his forum... but instead of answering them, all he does it delete them. One member even posted a screen capture of his response thru PM, which stated that he claims to only make about $15 a week from the program and he was done updating it because his personal bot sales make him more money. Which is fine, but announce that to people, and refund all those that purchased your bot this month, and now you are refusing to update it or acknowledge anyone. And Ps. I know for a fact he makes more then that because I have two friends that have purchased tubenoia, and I am sure there are a lot more people then just 4 total a month.


    I write this being an advocate of Spk and his bots, but how he is handling this is ridiculous. So I really hope tuebnoia does not fall victim like some of his other programs where he just abandons them without telling anyone. If that is the case, I know at least 2 people that will be filing with paypal for refunds very shortly (before the 30 days are up).

    So I ask you Spk to handle this properly and appropriately before you end up on the shit list again and get banned for longer then just a couple of months.
     
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  2. xpwizard

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    I'm not a customer, but here's what I've seen:

    - Spk creates a thread stating that his "friend" told him YT are changing their algo's and the YT game is over.
    - The next day he removes his original post on that thread.
    - That same day, he then posts on Hackforums that he is selling the source of Tubenoia to 4 people for $450.
    - Four days later, he posts that it's sold out/not selling anymore.


    For those of you who aren't picking up on this, it's very clear that he doesn't want to continue support with this project and it will likely be dead soon.
     
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  3. sdr_stoica

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    hey guys,
    I'm not saying that it's ok... but try to understand him... he is running a freaking big business on his own... it's very hard to run it with a team behind it... believe me!

    I'm sure that spk will come with an official anouncement.

    I know him and he is a good guy :) some times he gets mad to quick but he is not a cheater :).

    Cheers,
    stoica

    PS: I think that all the tubenoia users got their money back from using the software :) told him that he is insane for selling tubenoia for such a small amount , but he told me that he wants to give something back to the community so don't come and troll him ;)
     
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  4. risingstaralliance

    risingstaralliance Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I agree, running a business is definitely not easy by yourself... however, taking it upon yourself to just delete threads on your forum of people asking whats going on, and why it is not working, rather then just make an announcemnet or even at minimum leaving those comments up. Someone smart enough to build the programs he has built, is smart enough to know that that is not how you handle business at all.

    As far as earning your money back, unfortunately I would have to disagree, while people who were using it when it was working, might have (and should have), but both my friends that purchased it, didn't even get a chance to earn one cent on it. As well as everyone who is paying for it, should be prorated their monthly subscription back, otherwise they have a valid case with their banks or paypal to get their money back.

    Let me give an example. If you bought a gym membership, but after 2 days there were no weights in the gym to use, then you would be entitled to a refund.

    Keep in mind, that I am using tubenoia free for the 6 months because he abandoned youtoob fe/me, so I am not trying to get any money back, I am just trying to find out what is going on. But my friends should be entitled, as well as anybody else.
     
  5. jtgjustin

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    I don't see what the problem is, it's not like hes selling lifetime subscriptions. YouTube is a huge company and gaming it takes a lot of hard work.
     
  6. sdr_stoica

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    hey risingstaralliance,

    I agree with you and I think I would be pissed off if I would be in your position, to refer 3 friends to tubenoia and them complaining that it's not working.
    But look at this thing like this... you payed for youtoob me right? it stoped working... what did spk do... gave you free 6 months of tubenoia... mate 90% of the developers would not do that... I'm sure he will deal with this in a very conveninet way for both sides.

    Cheers,
    Stoica
     
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    SpK has alot of responsibility on his shoulders considering his age.

    He will come through , Believe me on that :)
     
  8. risingstaralliance

    risingstaralliance Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hey stoica,

    I am not pissed, just disappointed. I have purchased youtoob me, fe, viewet, and tubenoia.

    When I purchased Me, it basically stopped working immediately, I also had just purchased fe, so spk's solution was to give us tubenoia for 6 months, but in reality, me and fe were a waste of money since they did not do what they stated they did. I didnt complain because he gave us tubenoia for free for 6 months.... but not continuing updates etc for 6 months, means I only got a fraction of that time. But with that said, I am not trying to get money or anything, I am trying to find out what is going on. Waiting this long to get an answer, and seeing him deleting threads on tubenoia.com asking whats going on, is pretty ridiculous.

    Some people are defending him stating his age, etc. But in my opinion, age is irrelevant (other then the fact that he is great at programming for his age), I have seen him online, plus he has taking the time to delete threads, as well as make posts to this forum (and a few others), so I know it is not because of time.

    Also, as someone has pointed out, he took the time to put it up for sale (the source code) to 4 people, and sold it right away.

    I am just trying to find out what is going on, let my fellow BHW to not waste your money purchasing a product that currently is not working and we have gotten no feedback from the owner... which reminds me of another product recently that went south from a very respected user on BHW.. Arbydee, when he just up and disappeared without warning with his youtube product.

    As far as refunds go, I am talking about the people who purchase it under the false pretense that it is currently working (even my friends from 2 weeks ago). They are not mad or upset at me, they are wondering the same thing and wondering about a refund.

    And Stoica, I am a user of cpa and mvb and see the type of support you offer, so maybe that is making tubenoia look even worse.
     
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    why why why lmao, I would only buy my yt bots from vlad cuse I know for a fact he stands behind all his stuff:D
     
  10. dakota5369

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    bottom line is spk is an asshole. he always has been, he always will be. he is a kid and he acts like one. he has talent developing things, but zero idea how to handle his BUSINESS professionally. you just need to take him at face value. when he launches something new, ride it while you can and just wait for it to inevitably run its course and be over with. never depend on him to help you with anything. when his current project runs dry, wait for his new one and rinse and repeat.

    why people continually are surprised when they find out he is a dick, i dont know. there is enough evidence to support it
     
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  11. Ranger11

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    I'm glad someone created a thread about this, Thought i was the only one.

    The quote "You get what you paid for" fits perfectly here.
    A bot with so many features, for so cheap, it's not gonna last long.

    When accounts were being banned once Tubenoia logs in, He didn't notify anyone, Created a update, Same issue.

    1 Week with accounts being banned.

    And whats a big part about this? Comment rating hasn't worked for almost a month and he spends his programming time cracking someones account creator
    Honestly, How pathetic can you get?


    He doesn't feel like putting on his home page "Tubenoia doesn't work at the moment", Instead lets new customers come in and those customers don't read the forums, go straight and post a thread "This doesn't work".

    He posted a thread here saying youtube botting is officially dead.
    If your a real programmer you'd know that's impossible. Thread is deleted btw.

    Are you trying to keep people away from Youtube Botting so you can keep a working version for your self? Thats what it looks like

    -You don't update Tubenoia
    -You say Youtube Botting is dead
    -You you don't even post 1 word about Tubenoia

    Good way to abuse your name that has trust about anything you say about youtube.

    Spk simply realized he makes more money using his own bot because it wont get patched easy if he's the only one using it.

    I would LOVE to see his reply to this thread, He has no excuse to why he hasnt said ONE word to anyone in 2 weeks about updates.

    If Tubenoia was real, As in a true bot, It would have cost at least $100/month, But since he didn't plan on supporting it much he threw it for $15

    What did you guys think? He would make a bot with ALL those features for $15/month/customer? Really.
     
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    I was about to subscribe to tubenoia today until I came across to this thread. I changed my mind. Thanks for the head ups and I hope that you get these things sorted out soon.
     
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    haha same here
     
  14. okpromotions

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    what i find amazing is the amount of time somebody will spend ripping on a $15 bot that stopped working. guys it's blackhat. use it while you can and move on. it's $15 for god's sake. wtf?
     
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    Exactly what I thought to myself.
     
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    Really? 6 words is what you come to this thread to defend yourself.

    It cease to amaze me how when shit hits the fan you don't even open your big mouth like you ve done in the past. Seems like you can't even argue with the fact that all of your ridiculous posts about yt botting dead and how you promise not to stop updating tubenoia seems all like a post by someone retarded like you.

    Seriously? you come and call yourself a youtube guru, then you say you have the best programming skills since you claim no one else can code anything else besides a browser yt bot yet you cant even defend yourself against these claims that are done against you.

    If you are not retarded then you would have had put this bot at higher price than 15 dollars and save yourself the hustle of updating your bot to everyone , only retards will think that a price tag of 15 dollars is gonna be helpful for everyone except the developer .
     
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    Do you get mad at Wal-Mart for having low prices too?

    Seriously its obvious why SpK is done with Tubenoia. He puts together the best youtube bot on the market, gives it to us for an insanely generous price, and then he ends up with horrible customers.

    Everytime something doesnt work, even a little bit, everyone jumps on his forum and complains complains complains. 80% of the time we don't even give any information about our errors or bugs, we just say "Tubenoia doesnt work right. Fix it." I am not sure why he would feel obligated to help someone when they don't even pay for the software anymore, and they don't give a proper bug report.

    Thanks SpK for the best Youtube bot, while it lasted. :cool:

    RIP Tubenoia
     
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    No, i don't, because i know the difference between a good and a service. If i buy something from walmart and i don't like it believe me i can go and get a refund with my sales receipt, with spk i get called a retard or a noob. Besides Walmart sells tangible goods, spk sells intangible 15 dollar recurring bullshit!
     
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    Not sure how you could define his software as that. I would pay $15 PER DAY to use Tubenoia in its current state. You could buy tubenoia for $15 and make 3 times that by the end of the day.
     
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    Hey there guys. This is going to get a little offtopic, then ontopic again, but bear with me.

    First things first, let's clear out the garbage. cool0403, dakota5369 and another dude in here I forgot the name of is flamers. Dakota is a Viewet member. He was unhappy with the service and flamed me, when Nick had clearly taken over that time, and is butthurt over that. I don't even know the "cool" guy, he is no customer of mine, his reputation is -3, and he talks shit on any thread my name is brung up. Instead of doing this, go make some money kid. And the last guy I think is some programmer that is jealous or something... anyways.

    For those saying I claim to be the best coder. I have never said this, and probably never will, because I am not AT ALL. I code web automation, and that is probably about it. You're putting words into my mouth at this point. And for being a YouTube Guru, I do think so myself, yes. I've reported over 6 bugs to Google about YouTube, which at this moment is the highest count of bugs reported by a single user. All about YouTube. My name is also on the Google Hall of Fame.

    No need to cause drama about this. Doors are closed for this shop, and that's it. No more updates, and no need to pay next month. Why is everybody so mad? I don't get it. Did I sell lifetime licenses? No. Did I promise that I will update it forever? No.

    One of many mistakes I did, which is probably the biggest, is make a all-in-one bot. I should start being more like a snake that makes seperate bots and calls it for example: YOUTUBE COMMENT RATING DOMINATION, or one of those catchy titles. Instead, I made a all in one bot that did EVERYTHING, and kids didn't even know how to use it, so they started bashing it. After I dedicate my time to give you the most complete bot for only $15 I come and see people flaming me, all the time. I ignored that and continued with what I did. Then I started seeing my customers talking that I updated to slow, which just demotivated me to do anything, so I stopped. I stopped for a while, and it seems like not only am I being flamed, but my income from Tubenoia sales are very low.

    So what I did instead was code a comment rater from scratch, and thanks to that I bank $800-900 every day, and I partnered up with some people that owns one of the biggest view services out there. (whatever service you use, they are probably resellers of those guys). We had a long chat, and we finally got this thing going. I make $9500 from this by partnering with them.

    So being into this bot business with getting flamed isn't a option for me anymore. For those who want more information, read the Tubenoia forums.

    tl;dr: I made a amazing all-in-one bot, it was good for a quite while. People starting flaming me, I got demotivated, and something really bad happened to me (only stoica knows, hence he defending me on here), I stopped updating, found out I can make more just using it (don't know how many of you actually quadrupled their investment, and still complaining) - and we're here today.

    Thought I should add my input.

    To the haters, I'm still above you :)