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Trying to get recover from penguin - Follow Me

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by marrrko, May 28, 2012.

  1. marrrko

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    I got email from one of our clients asking me if i can do anything to get his site up and running again, because he got hit by let's say penguin 1.0 and from #2 to nowhere for his main keyword.
    Now i told him, let's wait a bit and see what will happen but he insisted to get him out of sandbox much faster.
    So i will try to see how fast i can get him out of there and on what position he will be after he see his site ranked again.

    I will use only unique content, no spun at all, 500 words articles, with images and video inside (even if I'm sure that good spun content will still work very good), manual work and socials, FB, twitter, linkedin, youtube etc..
    I will use also G1+, re-tweets etc..

    Niche is not so easy, it is something connected with money, domains is not EMD, and site is authority, PR2, around 7-8 months old i think.

    I will try to update this thread almost everyday so we can all see what will happen, how it will happen and when it will happen.

     
  2. ok180

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    Your wasting your time and money doing this at the moment unless you can specifically see where the problem is. Better off leaving that one where it is for now and build a new mini site with the same url structure. When the new site starts to rank you can switch the domains around. If the old site comes back during this process just continue on with it.
     
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    subbed, good luck
     
  4. marrrko

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    I think you are wrong, it is a regular sandbox, nothing special, where G take your site to check all parameters and to put your site after that on place where your site belong.
    My opinion is, if i continue with quality backlinks G will put on SE much faster that site, than usual, and it is logical.
     
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    Thanks :)
     
  6. ok180

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    You could be right, without knowing what your clients backlink profile is like I couldn't say. The thing is your clients site could likely stay sandboxed or penalized for longer than he can stay solvent...

    People have come back from this but so far there is no consistant uniform process they are doing to recover. That's why I mentioned the new site, especially in your clients case where their current site is only 8 months old anyway, think of it as an insurance policy...

    Regardless, good luck with it! The first person who can figure this thing out and offer it as a service stands to make some serious coin.
     
  7. marrrko

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    The only logical thing is to keep with link building, and to get them indexed on daily basis if possible, to stay "viral" in the eye of G. Otherwise if you stop with link building G can see your site like not so important for readers, and you can stay sandboxed much longer.
    That's a point in my opinion.
    Now, i just trying to see if there is any difference if i continue with only unique content or it is the same like if i start using again spun content, with socials.
     
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    Solid advice for ok180 and would be my preference. Hell, not preference but actually what I am doing with one site at the moment.

    To marrrkos's credit, he advised his client to wait a bit. But hey, the client wants to move forward and that is what service providers are for. Remember the ole saying, the customer is always right. :)

    Best of success marrrko.

     
  9. marrrko

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    Thank you :)
    Advice to wait a bit was for a reason. Because i still working on his backlinks to get them indexed, so i wanted just to wait a bit more to see what will happen after all is done.

    Anyway, my first step is to make 10 web 2.0 with unique content, with video and images inside and to be full optimized, with home page, about us, contact us etc..
    Another step will be to connect them with FB, twitter, linkedin etc..
     
  10. ok180

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    So your site is on say page 200 from #2 and you continue to receive links from readers? Nothing really logical about that, how would they been finding your site? once again though, it's all speculation.

    If a client was paying me though and insisted I did it I would though! :D
     
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    Even if you disagree with Marrrko, I for one would like to see the results. For me I'm taking a wait and see attitude for some of my sites. I'm still throwing some backlinks at it here and there but right now I'm mostly just giving it some time to breath and wait to see if Google changes its mind again.

    Keep us updated Marrrko.
     
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    Why wouldn't it be logical? One of my sites that got tanked gets a fair amount of natural traffic to the site from Facebook. Why wouldn't some of those be willing to backlink it? Google is not the only source of traffic. I'm still ranked on the first page for some of my sites that got hit on Bing and Yahoo also.
     
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    Hey Marrrko
    I am following this. Great guy
     
  14. ok180

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    Of course you would still get links, but instead of 1,000 a month it would be more like 200 a month assuming Google is your major traffic source which is the case for most people. And in the end your have to remember that Google doesn't find all your links at once anyway, the stuff you build today may not get found for another 3 months, there's no harm in letting the site site for a month or two if it has been penalized.
     
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    And he's going for higher quality links which would likely be significantly less I'm guessing. I agree with you about letting it sit. That's what I'm doing but it's nice to see someone who's not so we get that perspective.
     
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    I didn't mean about real readers, it was more like a phrase. :)
    For example your site was on #2 and now it's on 200 and no one can see it, but before this fail your site was viral and with real visitors, who are still "sharing your link" (and by this i mean about classic link building) all over the web, because your site is good and valuable for them.
    Just think about that situation, and how that can look natural if you continue to build links even if you are sandboxed, and how longer you can stay if you stop with backlinks.


    I'm not sure if i was clear now :)
     
  17. marrrko

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    And like Jericho said, you can be viral for real, and you can make your site look like you are "viral" with link building.
    And i tried to explain my thoughts about second one.
    If you keep going with backlinks G will see you like a "viral" and i think you will get much faster out of sandbox because you simple need to be on some good position for readers.
     
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    The site most likely won't come back until the next refresh, if the site doesn't get caught in the penguin filter again...
     
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    I know it to early for this but i can't wait to see the results...
     
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    Good luck. Subbed to the thread :)