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Truth about BHW marketplace and best diversity service?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SEOentrepreneur, Dec 4, 2015.

  1. SEOentrepreneur

    SEOentrepreneur Junior Member

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    There are lot of bad ones out there,and I tried few of them that are very popular,and they just...how to say this...SUCK.

    Sometimes articles are not unique,sometimes I got 20% unique articles,up to maximum 60% unique,and seller kept telling me that is fine for SEO. LOL

    Of course when you leave negative review they offer some pbn posts or something to you,just so people don't know truth. Some sellers offer unique articles,but after 2 months,links are not indexed - I bought this service for 4th times few days ago,thinking everything is fine,but then noticed 80-90% are not indexed.

    I contacted seller about this and we will see what will happen. Some don't deliver report at all (most of them are few days late),because "their house just is destroyed from rain" or "their wife is sick" or some stupid reason like that. They was even saying things like "don't leave negative review,I don't have nothing to eat" LOL

    Saying seller with 500+ sales lol. Most of them are from India,not that I don't like India,or people there,I think it is interesting country,but it is just that you can find people doing online job for cheap,often resulting in bad quality. And as anybody who is doing SEO and earning money (at least 100$ per day from it),knows that diversity is very imporant,anchor diversity,links diversity etc. You can rank only with pbn,but it is much safer,and I did case study before,much easier to rank with good diversity service. That leads me to my question and reason for making this thread,what is best diversity service? Let me rephrase it... What diversity service is NOT BAD? Because there are a lot of them,and most of them are bad. Which offers unique articles,HQ backlinks,indexing service (so most of links are indexed in google after month or so) and good diversity?

    There was one seller then cost almost double then everyone else,actually even more but because of me doing something about black hat niches (don't hate me, I will try white hat as soon as I start making some real money and have enough to invest in something bigger),so that is no go. I didn't thought to write this long,but I wanted to explain my situation better. Price is no problem,of course as long as it is well deserved. So what do you recommend? I do use pbn,web 2.0,blog comments,guest posts etc. I am talking only about diversity services (which are most popular on bhw marketplace). Kindly reply with your opinion,I would really appreciate it!
     
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  2. macdonjo3

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    You're obviously doing business with the wrong people. If you seriously want to outsource your SEO work, why don't you go to someone who has a real reputation? If it actually works, it's not going to sell for $50... and most of these services shouldn't even be used directly on your money site.

    You joined in 2015... I think you have a lot to learn before you can start blaming other people.
     
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  3. Leith

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    Firstly, regarding the bolded text in red, I do see that there is a massive crisis in parts of India just now with severe flooding, so maybe that's a legitimate reason/explanation that you got from the seller?

    And if you already do Web 2.0s/PBNs/Guest Posts, then why not just do the rest yourself? You won't have to worry about not being satisfied with the level of quality and you can focus on ensuring the links are indexed yourself.
     
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  4. jamesjk1

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    I feel pretty well qualified to respond. I've tried a number of services here and with the exception of 2-3, everything else has been crap and either harmed my site or done absolutely nothing. At this point I think I've learned my lesson and will be staying well away from 'review copies', BST's with poor spelling/grammar, and quotes which start with 'Are you tired of'. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for and I wouldn't pay another cent to 99% of the providers here.
     
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  5. SEOentrepreneur

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    You told me two things: Buy from somebody with reputation,and that I have a lot to earn because I joined 2015.

    Let me tell you something,you are wrong in both things.

    First off all,I did bought from somebody with reputation. I bought few most popular services here. They costed from 100$ to 150$ per 1 order. Still,low quality. If you read my whole post you would see I said I bought from threads with reputation,but still,same answer.

    Second thing,I had been doing SEO for more then 2 years now. I was in forum before,but I had some problems with password,I don't really remember what was it,now I even forgoted my username (Had to reboot my system before,and I had to make some pause etc,doesn't really matter. But date when somebody joined had nothing to do with how much I know. I know people who also joined in 2015,and they are making even more then me (1k$ per day and more) doing mostly SEO and facebook ads. So that really doesn't have to do with anything. Maybe it is YOU that needs to learn few things. I know most buyers will say same,at least ones that know how to check quality etc,that bhw market place is really bad (on my thread before there was like 10 people saying same,so I know I am not only one).
     
  6. bigballin6161

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    99% of the services here suck because the content is absolute garbage. Non english speaking crap I would never want on tier 1. Infact of all the services I have ordered I have never once been happy with the content.

    If anyone knows of a service that actually uses native english speakers so I can pass a manual review then let me know. I dont have the time to do it myself.

    I made a thread about this before. I dont mind paying more for good quality!!!
     
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  7. SEOentrepreneur

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    Flood was just example. Once told his wife is sick,second one he has to feed his family,third was saying something like he will lose everything etc,they just want me to feel sorry for them lol.

    And I don't do it myself because there are two options. One is to use gsa or some other software (have it) and captcha breaker or something (have it),and then pay montly for vps,proxies,list etc. At the end,it would cost a lot more then buying few diversity services,and it is not option. Second is to hire somebody,but problem is that it is hard to find somebody who will do quality work,because people that know how to do links,will know SEO,and they will know they can get more money ranking their own websites instead of mine.

    So buying service here seems like best option. Also I am lazy like Garfild,if not,I would probably be rich by now lol
     
  8. SEOentrepreneur

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    Nice to see a few people agree with me. Anyway,PM me,I can recommend you sellers that are not bad,but I can't really suggest somebody who is good :)
     
  9. wowhaxor

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    I'll just give you an idea of how you could do it and you can ignore it if you want. Stay clear of all the spun content, all the PBNs that seem like they're selling way too many copies for the # of blogs they have, etc. and get guest posts/quality PBN posts (on not over sold PBNs andwith hand written articles with pictures/videos too, etc.), get web 2.0s that are on authority sites and all filled out properly/have added in extra content as well. Etc., research these things and pay a little bit more for them as they are what is pointing to your site. Then from here you can either use your own software or go with any of the cheap (because the cheaper services are generally cheap for a reason) providers to throw links at these properties. Absolutely don't skimp on the quality over price for your article/tier 1 properties that will link directly to you though and only use the cheap and lower quality services (if you don't have software) for the next level of linking.

    If you're looking for someone who is going to sell you a blast of blog posts on their PBN or web 2.0 articles at $1 or something low then its obviously going to be crap, its going to be spun and not readable and maybe not even spun enough to be unique and even the ones for a few $ are going to be crap as the outsourced writer is not going to be from the US/have English as a first language if they can make a living writing articles that cheap. The expensive ones are expensive because someone is outsourcing and paying an actually decent writer and taking the time to format and add images, etc. and has to turn a profit on that so they have to charge more. Keep that in mind.

    There is a lot of crap here but it should be obvious that's what it is, its stuff tats cheap and still works fine for boosting your web 2.0 or PBN properties but its obviously not what you want pointing directly to you and building off of. Look at the sales threads and ask questions if you need to but generally the rule I follow is if they say spun content, the $ per/property are low, etc. then its not suitable for your tier 1 links and you wont be happy with it. So skip those and there's still stuff out there for you it just costs more.
     
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  10. SEOentrepreneur

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    I know all that. I do use tier 2 and tier 3 on my web 2.0 (HQ) and guest posts. I do other things as well.

    My question was only about diversity service.
     
  11. SEOentrepreneur

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    Can you answer on PM? Thank you
     
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    I don't really do the diversity services, I'd rather go with someone whos good at a certain thing and use them for that, there's absolutely nothing wrong with breaking up your campaign between different providers. It also lets you get exactly what you want instead of some of the random garbage some of those diversity linking services throw in with the good stuff to fill it out and only get the properties you want.
     
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  13. SEOentrepreneur

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    Thank you for advices,but my question was about diversity service. If somebody know any good one tell few names or PM me :)
     
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    Same as proxy and people always use their fake account to review lol
     
  15. SEOentrepreneur

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    Well they are not fake,most of them are friends or something. They told me "leave a good review and you will get 15 pbn links,or leave bad and we both lose"
    So yea,I will choose 15 free pbn links
     
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    My observation with purchasing services has been similar. The popular ones offer great support, but the services are oversold and therefore ineffective. I like to look for new services that are not picked up by too many customers. Many times they work better because they are less popular. Mixing up a couple of them offers good diversity.
     
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    Hmm..... What else do you expect from services selling pbn posts for 50 cents ?
     
  18. BlackSept

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    Funny thing is that these "crap" services are all approved&recommended by mods and "reputable members".
     
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  19. SEOentrepreneur

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    Well I am buying for diversity only,but it does often includes blog posts that cost,I wouldn't really say 50 cents,but more like 1.5$ or so. But still as long as is it unique (articles) and links are indexed and good,that is all I am looking for. But from few services I tried didn't manage to get all 3,even when I bought service that cost a little bit more. Now I did find one service that cost 4-5 times more then other services,so I will see do I have at least some luck!
     
  20. roman375

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    If you want a decent amount of tier 1 links, on diverse platforms, using well-written unique content without any spinning, you need to be prepared to pay a pretty penny for it. That is something a lot of people seem to not understand. They demand well-written unique content for all of their tier 1 link building, then baulk at the price and run to the next provider offering SUPER SECRET FORMULA GOOGLE PAGE 1 RANKINGS GUARANTEED FOR $49.99, then come back and cry about the quality "boohoo there are no reputable and quality providers left on BHW". Quality costs money.

    Just to give you a rough idea, a single 500 word article written by a native English speaker will cost you at least $5 for that one article. For 10 articles to be used for 10 links (one unique article per link, you wanted no spinning right?), that's already $50 in content costs alone, without accounting for the labour involved in manually creating the links and all that other jazz.

    You want quality? There's plenty of it here. Just stop running to the next provider offering big dreams for pennies and then crying about it when you get exactly what you paid for.

    Normally I do not comment on these threads, but figured I'll chime in on what seems to be a recurring topic on BHW lately. Have a good one!
     
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